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    Write here ideas for new villain that you would like to see against Spider-Man, add their names, their powers, how they look in costume and their relationship to Spider-Man and Peter Parker, and how they affect Peter's life.
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    OrbWeaver

    Weapons designed to specifically combat Spider-man with comparable strength and durability. The character has no true identity due to the fact that he should be crime incarnate, he's not overly malicious, he's not gonna rape anybody or kill a baby. But he is crime as a whole and as a result should not have an identity revealed to the reader, he's not here for a mystery he's just here to screw around with Spider-man.

    -Can climb walls with assistance of the costume.
    -Web lines generated from the costume itself but must replenish before the mimic power can be used, cannot actually web-swing.
    -Can mimic the appearance of anybody relative to the size of his own form, cannot replicate anybody smaller or too much larger than himself.
    -Web Traps (think gadgets from Spider-man PS4)
    -Chemical composition of the costume unintentionally has almost negated the Spider-sense on OrbWeaver so while he can be noticed, it's just not as fast.
    -Chemical composition can also cause parts of his costume to be hard to stick webbing to.
    -OrbWeaver can leave parts of "himself" places and detect what walks by, knowing exactly what it is, but this is what can be noticed by the Spider-sense, the problem is that it's just too small to find.
    -Arm blades to cut what webs do connect

    It's a villain whose whole goal is screwing with Spider-man, not to kill him or go overly violent, but he's on Spider-man's turf and builds his gear around Spider-man's tropes. But what's more is that he's totally willing to sell his comrades out. So if his back is against the wall, he'll totally just drop his loot and screw off while telling exactly where his guys are and slip out.
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    There should be a new Human Fly. Faster, stronger than the first, but not a street-level thug backstory.

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    I had this idea for a time-based villain named Clockwork. She would use clock themed gadgets in her arsenal, perhaps a device that creates a 'time field' that speeds or slows objects down when in range of it.

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    Elephant.

    There is Rhino, Hippo, Ox, Lizard, Iguana, Chameleon, Stegron, Cobra, Toad, Princess Python, Eel, Doctor Octopus, Squid, Tarantula, Black Tarantula, Scorpion, Fly, Beetle, Swarm, Goldbug, Gypsy Moth, Vulture, Owl, White Rabbit, Black Cat, Puma, Black Fox, Man-Wolf, Grizzly, Panda Mania, Mongoose, Vermin, Gibbon, Mandrill, Kangaroo - but, to my recollection, no Elephant. I'm serious.

    Can be a mutated man / elephant, a mutant whose got the appearance of an elephant, or an Elephant Man (Joseph Merrick's syndrome).

    If under appearance of elephant, the thick skin of an elephant, and the strength of an elephant, as well as use of elephant snout appendage.

    If under appearance of Elephant Man Syndrome, really frightful looking, including under Spider-Man's eyes, and he shall take no hesitation in taking advantage of it by being equally as terrifyingly sadistic, violent, and cruel.
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    New Jackal

    A clone fabricated from the DNA of Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy who prefers to be called George, completely insane with an obsation of wanting Peter to recognize him as his son and try to keep alive the legacy of Gwen as his mother in very insane ways, posses all the powers of Peter, and is genius like both his parents and uses clones but also is obsessed with the DNA of powerful beings he can get for his experimento.

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    Shellshock

    The original was killed by Scourge but didn't return with the other victims via the Hood's resurrection spell. The brand new version, Will Prometheus, would have been an agent of HAMMER's version of Agency M during Dark Reign; trading things (weaponry and humans mostly) to guys like Psycho-Man and Baron Karza for more exotic weaponry. He fled into Subatomica after Osborn was taken down; becoming a mercenary & bandit. He's more or less a tech scavenger. He received the original Shellshock's customizable gun from Psycho-Man. His distinctive helmet was taken from a soldier serving in the Slug People's protectorate (he did time in one of their fungus mines). His body suit was grown organically and has a coating that makes the wearer bulletproof and hard to grab hold of. He's an expert marksman and can operate in the dark due to having his eyes altered like every other prison laborer in the fungus mines. And the gun was crafted from an insect like parasite. It is an extension of the user's nervous system. So it's self loading and versatile enough to fire gas grenades, freeze rays, lasers, etc. Anyways, he makes it back to the macroverse and supports himself as a costumed enforcer for evil organizations like Roxxon and/or A.I.M.

    costume would be an updated version of the one below. No underwear on the outside and less of the yellow. But it should be believable as belonging to a mollusk based society.

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    Shocker II: He's a smart, young slightly disturbed guy who makes for himself a variation of Shocker's costume, perhaps as an effort to get revenge on people he feels have wronged him. It might be the supervillain equivalent of a school shooter.

    Spider-Man tries to stop him, but there are mass casualties. Heading into the rematch, Spidey is pissed. And this would raise uneasy questions about the value of one life, especially the value of someone who messed up badly and has been responsible for the deaths of others.
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    I think Spider-Man's villains and rogues are a little dated in a lot of respects. They are all largely old dudes and cliche'd mad scientists.

    Someone like Roderick Kingsley is a good example. Initially he started out as this fashion designer/mogul and his love of fashion explained the Hobgoblin's outift and that dashing cape and Renfaire vibe he had but instead of developing that fashion motif and keeping him tied to that like say a Batman villain does, he ends up becoming another rich old dude and then when Norman comes back, his original role as the Hobgoblin and replacement candidate Top Goblin is gone for good.

    He'd have worked better as a villain with a fashion industry theme, a bit like Fashion Beast this Alan Moore comic or like Daniel Day Lewis' character in Phantom Thread but done as a villain. Now he's just basically this Tinkerer type villain who creates gimmicks for other bad guys rather than an agent in his own right.

    There are only so many times you can do animals and so on...I mean when they did Puma they were clearly reaching the bottom of the barrel.

    I feel they need to update and do something different, like a villain with an advertising theme. Someone like Screwball who's a social media based villain is a good example. There's not a lot of modernity there. Like Spider-Man is a working-class hero in New York and yet for some reason no one has given him a stock-market supervillain. I mean Norman Osborn is a tech baron and chemistry business owner, Dr. Octopus, Lizard, Jackal are all failed academics...where's the supervillain version of Jordan Belfort. There's this obscure novel called JR about a kid who becomes a stock market genius and so on, and that could be a good villain idea. I mean say what you want about Carnage but a serial killer supervillain represented actual late 80s and early 90s concerns and fears and trends. And Jonathan Caesar that one shot creep who preyed on Mary Jane basically anticipated the Me Too crisis in a really big way. But there's not much attempt to take that further.

    Maybe someone could do this in Miles Morales' story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    I think Spider-Man's villains and rogues are a little dated in a lot of respects. They are all largely old dudes and cliche'd mad scientists.

    Someone like Roderick Kingsley is a good example. Initially he started out as this fashion designer/mogul and his love of fashion explained the Hobgoblin's outift and that dashing cape and Renfaire vibe he had but instead of developing that fashion motif and keeping him tied to that like say a Batman villain does, he ends up becoming another rich old dude and then when Norman comes back, his original role as the Hobgoblin and replacement candidate Top Goblin is gone for good.

    He'd have worked better as a villain with a fashion industry theme, a bit like Fashion Beast this Alan Moore comic or like Daniel Day Lewis' character in Phantom Thread but done as a villain. Now he's just basically this Tinkerer type villain who creates gimmicks for other bad guys rather than an agent in his own right.

    There are only so many times you can do animals and so on...I mean when they did Puma they were clearly reaching the bottom of the barrel.

    I feel they need to update and do something different, like a villain with an advertising theme. Someone like Screwball who's a social media based villain is a good example. There's not a lot of modernity there. Like Spider-Man is a working-class hero in New York and yet for some reason no one has given him a stock-market supervillain. I mean Norman Osborn is a tech baron and chemistry business owner, Dr. Octopus, Lizard, Jackal are all failed academics...where's the supervillain version of Jordan Belfort. There's this obscure novel called JR about a kid who becomes a stock market genius and so on, and that could be a good villain idea. I mean say what you want about Carnage but a serial killer supervillain represented actual late 80s and early 90s concerns and fears and trends. And Jonathan Caesar that one shot creep who preyed on Mary Jane basically anticipated the Me Too crisis in a really big way. But there's not much attempt to take that further.

    Maybe someone could do this in Miles Morales' story.
    The closest thing to a supervillain version of Jordan Belfort would be Luke Carlyle from J. Michael Straczynski's run, the would-be "new and improved Doctor Octopus" who was basically a con artist who tricked his way into becoming a corporate executive, killed anyone who got close to discovering the truth, and even tricked Doctor Octopus into letting his tentacles be "studied" so that he could create his own set, complete with a mechanical carapace. Eventually, he decided being a corporate exec was too stressful and hard, and so went full-blown supervillain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    The closest thing to a supervillain version of Jordan Belfort would be Luke Carlyle from J. Michael Straczynski's run, the would-be "new and improved Doctor Octopus" who was basically a con artist who tricked his way into becoming a corporate executive, killed anyone who got close to discovering the truth, and even tricked Doctor Octopus into letting his tentacles be "studied" so that he could create his own set, complete with a mechanical carapace. Eventually, he decided being a corporate exec was too stressful and hard, and so went full-blown supervillain.
    Well that's the problem there. They are trying to fit an old villain idea...Dr. Octopus...on to a contemporary archetype. And it doesn't work. You need to give the contemporary archetype it's own gimmick, trend, and metaphor.

    I mean think about the real life rogues gallery from Wall Street - Jordan Belfort, Bernie Madoff, Martin Shkrelli, Jared Kushner. Bendis kind of tried to make Kingpin a representative of that in USM where Kingpin owns the IP of Spider-Man and owns stock of Daily Bugle, but that's still kind of adjacent, and Kingpin being a murderous gangster and his business in Marvel is usually real estate or construction which still makes him kind of old fashioned. And the thing about these Wall Street supervillains is that with the exception of Madoff, they aren't old guys, a lot of them are on the younger side and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Well that's the problem there. They are trying to fit an old villain idea...Dr. Octopus...on to a contemporary archetype. And it doesn't work. You need to give the contemporary archetype it's own gimmick, trend, and metaphor.

    I mean think about the real life rogues gallery from Wall Street - Jordan Belfort, Bernie Madoff, Martin Shkrelli, Jared Kushner. Bendis kind of tried to make Kingpin a representative of that in USM where Kingpin owns the IP of Spider-Man and owns stock of Daily Bugle, but that's still kind of adjacent, and Kingpin being a murderous gangster and his business in Marvel is usually real estate or construction which still makes him kind of old fashioned. And the thing about these Wall Street supervillains is that with the exception of Madoff, they aren't old guys, a lot of them are on the younger side and so on.
    What about so-called "tech bro" CEOs who preside over the manipulation and exploitation (if not outright theft) of data shared through the online platforms that they own/control and do so with no care for how negatively society is being affected by it, seeing nothing but ways to profit off it all? In fact, I was thinking at one point of revamping Carolyn Trainer as a VR tech mogul using VR (and maybe even AR/augmented reality) to hack into people's brains and steal their information more directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    What about so-called "tech bro" CEOs who preside over the manipulation and exploitation (if not outright theft) of data shared through the online platforms that they own/control and do so with no care for how negatively society is being affected by it, seeing nothing but ways to profit off it all? In fact, I was thinking at one point of revamping Carolyn Trainer as a VR tech mogul using VR (and maybe even AR/augmented reality) to hack into people's brains and steal their information more directly.
    Well tech-bro bad guys is more of an Iron Man thing. And in Peter's neck of the woods, Norman Osborn and Green Goblin are already embodiments of that. And you know Peter Parker in the whole Parker Industries arc was a tech bro himself. Slott said he was trying to make Peter into Elon Musk which has become this dated thing now that Elon Musk has become exposed as another tech bro clown who got fired from his own company.

    The problem with that is that the stories are set in New York but New York is not really this bleeding edge technology center. That's Silicon Valley and on the East Coast it's Massachussets, you know MIT and Harvard. Like Venom 2018 had Eddie Brock in San Francisco and while it wasn't realistic at least the tech-bro bad guy there, Carlton Drake, who is basically a deadly accurate parody of this Silicon Valley messianic Steve Jobs/Musk image...it made sense.

    But that's a Marvel Universe problem on the whole and not specific to Spider-Man. In the MCU, Tony Stark is based in Malibu for his own trilogy, Hank Pym and his stories take place in the San Francisco Bay Area, so already the movies shifted away from that.

    The problem with Peter's Rogues Gallery is that there's no attempt to diversify or switch gears to new kinds of villains and threats. Like Batman for instance had his entire mythos reshaped and introduced when they brought a popular psychology to his stories. Now there are issues with his stories about the portrayal of mental illness and Arkham Asylum while great and iconic as a setting has maybe become too problematic, but the idea that all of Batman's villains represent and stand for themes and concepts was a great touch. So you know Plastic Surgery was and is a talking point...you have Hush and Prof. Pyg, disturbing sociopaths who represent fears and anxieties and twisted concerns about people altering their faces artificially and so on, as does Black Mask who originally was a cosmetic company baron before devolving in a manner not different from Kingsley into some generic sub-Kingpin crimelord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Well tech-bro bad guys is more of an Iron Man thing. And in Peter's neck of the woods, Norman Osborn and Green Goblin are already embodiments of that. And you know Peter Parker in the whole Parker Industries arc was a tech bro himself. Slott said he was trying to make Peter into Elon Musk which has become this dated thing now that Elon Musk has become exposed as another tech bro clown who got fired from his own company.

    The problem with that is that the stories are set in New York but New York is not really this bleeding edge technology center. That's Silicon Valley and on the East Coast it's Massachussets, you know MIT and Harvard. Like Venom 2018 had Eddie Brock in San Francisco and while it wasn't realistic at least the tech-bro bad guy there, Carlton Drake, who is basically a deadly accurate parody of this Silicon Valley messianic Steve Jobs/Musk image...it made sense.

    But that's a Marvel Universe problem on the whole and not specific to Spider-Man. In the MCU, Tony Stark is based in Malibu for his own trilogy, Hank Pym and his stories take place in the San Francisco Bay Area, so already the movies shifted away from that.

    The problem with Peter's Rogues Gallery is that there's no attempt to diversify or switch gears to new kinds of villains and threats. Like Batman for instance had his entire mythos reshaped and introduced when they brought a popular psychology to his stories. Now there are issues with his stories about the portrayal of mental illness and Arkham Asylum while great and iconic as a setting has maybe become too problematic, but the idea that all of Batman's villains represent and stand for themes and concepts was a great touch. So you know Plastic Surgery was and is a talking point...you have Hush and Prof. Pyg, disturbing sociopaths who represent fears and anxieties and twisted concerns about people altering their faces artificially and so on, as does Black Mask who originally was a cosmetic company baron before devolving in a manner not different from Kingsley into some generic sub-Kingpin crimelord.
    Hmm, if you're gonna bring up plastic surgery and Iron Man within the same post, there was Extremis 3.0 created by the "Superior Iron Man," which was designed to enable individuals imbued with it to transform their bodies into their most idealized self-image as the primary selling point. Since Secret Wars and ANAD Marvel ended up dropping the entire Superior Iron Man setup for a more standard portrayal of Tony Stark, I'm thinking Extremis 3.0 could crop up again on the East Coast, only being engineered and distributed by someone in ESU, as an excuse to bring in Spider-Man/Peter Parker.

    That aside, "science gone wrong" and animal motifs are just window dressing on what I feel is the real theme of Spider-Man's rogues gallery --- what happens when "great power" is used irresponsibly, recklessly, or even selfishly? Nearly all of Spider-Man's rogues have the same ultimate parallel with Peter; like him, they somehow gained great power by random chance and initially used it for selfish gain, but unlike him, they never got the wakeup call that forced them to stop acting so selfishly and they escalated into outright criminality and villainy. It could use some freshening up, but considering how we learn more and more in real life how those endowed with power in one form or another all too often end up abusing that power, it's still very relevant, especially now.
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    Not sure if you would classified as a villain or not

    But I would bring in some unknown Osborn

    an Uncle , a Nephew , a Cousin

    someone who has family secrets , and maybe a few skeletons in their own closet

    maybe not a outright villain of Spider-man , maybe just a Osborn family member who doesn't get along with Norman

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    maybe a Nephew who becomes the son Harry never could live up to , pushing Harry even farther over the edge
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