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    Frank Miller interview with comicbook.com and first look of interiors

    Frank Miller on Passing The Dark Knight Returns Legacy Onto the Next Generation in "The Golden Child"

    Legendary comics creator Frank Miller is headed back to the world of The Dark Knight Returns again, telling a story that shows just how different the next generation of heroes in his future have turned out to be. In The Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child, a one-shot written by Miller and featuring art by Rafael Grampa, Carrie Kelley – now fully realized as Batwoman – and Jonathan Kent will team up to be a bizarre and unpredictable riff on the “World’s Finest” team-ups of the past. Bizarre, in part, because Jonathan Kent is a toddler but, possessed of super-intellect (a power mostly used during Superman’s Silver Age adventures), he has become what Miller describes as a “floating Buddha.”

    While Jonathan’s sister Lara took on the warrior attributes of her Amazon upbringing, Jon has access to all of Krypton’s wisdom and knowledge at his beck and call. And that can make for a very different adventure than his father, whom The Dark Knight Returns’s Batman had derided as acting without thinking, and relying too much on his powers.

    “Jonathan did really evolve since DK3,” Miller told ComicBook.com. “He’s in it himself, but what comes next – Lara as the daughter of Superman, having all the power and fury and sturm und drang, to all of a sudden have the boy being this floating Buddha with all the wisdom of Krypton, seemed irresistible. In Dark Knight Returns, Carrie comes in and is really the daughter of Batman. And Lara in DK2 as the rather surprising daughter of Superman, and the third one, we’ve got Jonathan.”

    Miller wanted to explore what he calls the “turbulent” relationship between Batman and Superman in most modern comics – that, of course, is a relationship that both he and The Dark Knight Returns had no small part in shaping over the years. But rather than doing it with two old men over drinks, Miller moved the dynamic on to the next generation and asked himself, what would it look like if the daughter of Batman was suddenly somewhat responsible for a being as powerful as the child of Superman and Wonder Woman?

    “Partly what I’m up to, I’ve got to admit, is a bit of fun,” Miller said. “I’m playing off the very turbulent relationship I gave Superman and Batman. In this situation, it’s almost a reversal, in that Carrie is working with a boy who’s very much her junior, and is just discovering things – just discovering what people are. As innately wise as he is, she’s showing him the ropes. She’s very much a big sister…but she knows she’s dealing with an atom bomb in terms of power, and she’s trying to guide it.”

    Miller has made no secret about his desire to see more stories told with Carrie Kelley, including the potential for middle-reader adventure stories in the vein of Nancy Drew. But of course, the world of The Dark Knight Returns has become more and more fleshed out as sequels have come in the new millennium. While The Golden Child reads differently than the previous installments, it remains very much a story told in that same world. And while Miller admits that there are DC heroes he would love to play with some more, he seems to be enjoying working with his own original characters first.

    “I do have a take on The Atom I’d love to do, and each one of these characters is so well-conceived that there are ways you can approach them that nobody’s done yet,” Miller explained. “I won’t go into each example because I don’t want to be throwing too many ideas around. What I’m really into with this project, is exploring the switch from generation to generation. I think that’s a powerful motif, and I love the idea of Dark Knight going from this story about a hero facing age (and the first Dark Knight, he spends the whole thing moaning and groaning about how old he is and how much his bones hurt) and having it move now into how the characters are young and untried and learning the ropes.”

    The end result of decades of storytelling set in this universe seems to be that Miller has an opportunity that few creators – other than Savage Dragon’s Erik Larsen – have: to comment on culture and the characters by allowing them to more or less age in real time and evolve alongside the rest of us. But don’t give him too much credit for that, he jokes.
    “I wish I could say I planned it that way, but orignally, I planned for the ending of the first Dark Knight that Batman was going to die and I changed it,” Miller said. “So these things are not as planned as we often like to pretend they are. The stories do come naturally, the characters start demanding things by themselves, and that’s usually when the stories get better.”




    Edit: DC nation Twitter posted fully colored page:
    https://twitter.com/thedcnation/stat...371844096?s=21

    Last edited by LoveStar; 11-11-2019 at 11:27 PM.

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    Continued...






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    Wow that is some cool color on Grampa's pencils. His use of perspective is quite something. Love the tones.


    Reading Miller's interview. I like what I am reading so far. Can't wait to see how Johnathan speaks and thinks!

    I also love Lara is wearing Clark and Diana's symbols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssupes View Post
    I don't know if it means to close out the saga since frank is keen to expand his universe but what I do know is it makes sense for a child of superman and wonder woman to be the one that could stop darkseid given that a SMWW child is often depicted as being extremely powerful. Looking forward to see how it is done.
    I dunno. He talked about DKIV like it was the last chapter of the saga. Maybe the 'verse will keep expanding through spin-off books. 🤔

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    That looks so good. With colors and all, Grampá style reminds me of Geoff Darrow's.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    I also love Lara is wearing Clark and Diana's symbols.
    I didn't noticed it before reading your post. Btw, I like this design choice. I probably prefer it over the combined SM/WW logo. 🤔

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    SuperWonder Inktober Art

    “Day #28 #inktobermexico “


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    “23/31 Ancient”

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    “#inktober day 28 - Ride
    You think Superman is jealous of Wonder Woman’s sweet ride??”

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    Part 2

    “...Where’s my super cape?”

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B3fRNuzFTsn/

    “Day 25 TASTY #wonderwoman from #frankmiller and his Dark Knight Returns series”


    https://www.instagram.com/p/B4DTycCpV3U/

    “hold on Clark you’ve been poisoned with krypton gas, Bruce is on the way we’ll get you to safety... hold on”

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    New Fan-fiction updates from NightSkyWonderer:

    Story: The Blessing

    Chapter 2: Home is Us

    Description: Part 2 of “The Blessing” comes to an end. However, Part 3 begins next with Diana and Kal still adjusting to raising their Super-God toddler and a new addition to the SuperWonder Family delving deeper into the mythic, magical world of the Olympian Gods.

    Link: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12913136/20/The-Blessing

    Fan-fiction updates from our fellow poster Hellacre:

    Story: The Alien and the Amazon

    Chapters 32 & 33

    Description: He is the controversial social crusader and charismatic alien. She is the gung ho, fully trained warrior princess. Both trying to fit in. SM and WW's characters are loosely based on the rebooted DC Universe, from the New52 Justice League, Action Comics, Superman & Wonder Woman.

    Link for chap. 32: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7714467...AND-THE-AMAZON

    Link for chap. 33: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7714467...AND-THE-AMAZON

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Frank Miller interview with comicbook.com and first look of interiors

    Frank Miller on Passing The Dark Knight Returns Legacy Onto the Next Generation in "The Golden Child"





    Edit: DC nation Twitter posted fully colored page:
    https://twitter.com/thedcnation/stat...371844096?s=21

    Can I just appreciate Jonathan just hovering, casual like, upside down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post

    I didn't noticed it before reading your post. Btw, I like this design choice. I probably prefer it over the combined SM/WW logo. ��
    I think I will have to see. Lara might be different from Jonathan. She had quite the struggle which side (amazon or kryptonian) to identify with for a while, given she missed out on Dad's input for years. While Jonathan had both mom and dad around from early on.
    Last edited by hellacre; 11-12-2019 at 07:52 PM.

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    SuperWonder Plushies

    “Because every superman has a wonderful woman by his side! 💪”


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    “This duo is unbeatable 🤜🏻🤛🏻”


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    “You never know what you will see when you’re #walkingwithtrollgodfather.”


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    Part 2

    “Oh my love❤️❤️❤️”

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    “Superman & Wonderwoman 💛💙♥️”

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    “@glitter_leaf Still loving my crochet Superman and now he has a friend 😊”

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    I think I will have to see. Lara might be different from Jonathan. She had quite the struggle which side (amazon or kryptonian) to identify with for a while, given she missed out on Dad's input for years. While Jonathan had both mom and dad around from early on.
    I like the way it looks. Like Hunter's design but in reverse (WW logo in the back and the SM one in front).

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    “You never know what you will see when you’re #walkingwithtrollgodfather.”


    https://www.instagram.com/p/B4JeyiDAlea/
    lol.

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    DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE GOLDEN CHILD leads advance-reorder chart.

    18 years ago in December, Dark Knight Strikes Again gave the nascent recovery a boost thru the winter months. Today, this December's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE GOLDEN CHILD from Frank Miller has led the first advance-reorder chart for which it was eligible
    https://twitter.com/comichron/status...362742785?s=21

    Frank Miller's return to the world of Batman led the charts in the form of Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child #1. His Dark Knight Strikes Again #1 was also a winter release, leading the charts in December 2001 and helping to accelerate the industry's recovery in 2002.
    https://www.comichron.com/monthlycom...9/2019-12.html

    Also:
    Rafael Grampá confirms, on IG, Darkseid is the villain as the covers have shown but says he isn’t the only villain.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B40ZI8ClwGy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE GOLDEN CHILD leads advance-reorder chart.


    https://twitter.com/comichron/status...362742785?s=21


    https://www.comichron.com/monthlycom...9/2019-12.html

    Also:
    Rafael Grampá confirms, on IG, Darkseid is the villain as the covers have shown but says he isn’t the only villain.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B40ZI8ClwGy/
    I think DK Golden Child is exactly what DC needs to get out of the inertia and boredom that lies. Seriously it is already smelling bad and I already see some flies flying around its body in semi decomposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    DARK KNIGHT RETURNS: THE GOLDEN CHILD leads advance-reorder chart.
    Not surprised about this. 😎

    Also:
    Rafael Grampá confirms, on IG, Darkseid is the villain as the covers have shown but says he isn’t the only villain.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B40ZI8ClwGy/
    Another villain? Isn't too much for just 40 pages? 😅 It'll be probably a tease for DKIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    Wow that is some cool color on Grampa's pencils. His use of perspective is quite something. Love the tones.


    Reading Miller's interview. I like what I am reading so far. Can't wait to see how Johnathan speaks and thinks!

    I also love Lara is wearing Clark and Diana's symbols.
    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    I dunno. He talked about DKIV like it was the last chapter of the saga. Maybe the 'verse will keep expanding through spin-off books. 🤔

    That looks so good. With colors and all, Grampá style reminds me of Geoff Darrow's.

    I didn't noticed it before reading your post. Btw, I like this design choice. I probably prefer it over the combined SM/WW logo. 🤔
    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    Can I just appreciate Jonathan just hovering, casual like, upside down?

    I think I will have to see. Lara might be different from Jonathan. She had quite the struggle which side (amazon or kryptonian) to identify with for a while, given she missed out on Dad's input for years. While Jonathan had both mom and dad around from early on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    I like the way it looks. Like Hunter's design but in reverse (WW logo in the back and the SM one in front).
    The artwork with the colors is spectacular! Seriously I’m loving Lara’s blue hair. The idea of a super intellectual toddler is something I don’t think seen before in regards to DC(?). This concept is a goldmine. We already see “what if SMWW had kids” with Jupiter legacy. But DC actually having the concept fleshed out and explored is a great step to opening up so many more creative ideas. Miller’s world is crazy and started out rough. It’s still not perfect but the ideas are there and can be worked with as we saw in DKIII with Azzarello. Miller actively in a way retconning his world to be more open, balanced, and giving all the characters a wider perspective. That’s another plus as this world continues to expand.

    With Grampá’s art style and the “golden child” concept this definitely fits a unique anime series setting. We’ve already had it in a way with 80s anime “Project Ako” who ironically had red hair. 🤣

    I love Lara with the symbols. This is the representation we’ve talked about. I’m still hoping with Jon having his little jacket closed, it’s revealed he is the one with the combined logos.

    And speaking of Hunter, Last Son... really wish we could’ve gotten his story better so hoping one day he is revamped back to what he was as the possible son of SMWW. That story just didn’t make any sense with all the weird editing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deiasilva10 View Post
    I think DK Golden Child is exactly what DC needs to get out of the inertia and boredom that lies. Seriously it is already smelling bad and I already see some flies flying around its body in semi decomposition.
    LOL why does this seem like a description of an awful horror film scene....

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Not surprised about this. 😎

    Another villain? Isn't too much for just 40 pages? 😅 It'll be probably a tease for DKIV.
    Heh😎

    All but confirmed of DKIV. Going big with the kids of SMWW is much appreciated and very appropriate.

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