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    Default Some remarks about Kryptonians

    Hello,

    1. General Remark about Kryptonians

    I am a big Young Justice (Comic-Series) Fan, especially Conner,Bart,Tim and Cassie.
    I like Conner, but I dont like the portrayal of the Kryptonians in the DC Universum.

    I mean we have many Kryptonians,but they all have the same power sets: Jor El, Kal El, Kon El,Kara Zor El,Jon El,Zod...
    I liked much more the Dragon Ball Idea: In Dragon Ball we also have many Sayajins but they have different powers, even their powers are also based on an unique source: Ki.
    This would have been a cool Idea also for the DC Kryptonians whose power source is the Yellow or Blue Sun.

    I mean basic Kryptonian Powers for every Kryptonian (Super-Strenght,Flying,Kryptonian Senses,Invulnerability....) BUT!! instead of Heat Vision and Super/Freeze-Breathe just developing other variations of solar powered long range attacks.
    We have already seen that Kryptonians could use also other body parts: Kara Zor El,Clark and Jon showed this while doing the Solar Flare.
    OR you could also change and use Superwoman (Lana Lang) who had Electric Powers like the Blue Electric Superman.


    For Conner its simple: Kryptonian Powers, but replace Freeze Breathe and Super-Breathe with TTK (because he can control whatever he touches so it would be simple for him to create wind etc.), if he has to wield something he can also use TTK
    and instead of Heat Vision as long range attack he could use something like the Galick Canon of Vegeta.

    For Jonathan, Kryptonian Powers, but use the Superwoman Concept on him. So Kryptonian Powers and his Heat Vision,Super Breathe and Freeze Breathe replaced by electric attacks and control of the electrons around him. So more like her https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Lana_Lang_(Prime_Earth)


    Its also interesting: Dragonball has Son Goku, Son Gohan and Son Goten
    DC has Kal El, Kon El and Jonathan

    To bad that Jonathan is older now, because with young Jonathan it would fit perfectly.

    Another Idea for Conner which I like would be Kryptonian Powers, but replace Freeze Breathe,Super Breath with the Telekinesis of NEW52 Superboy and also his Telepathy..

    So you would have 3 Kryptonians with Invulnerability,Flying....like every Kryptonian (Strenght Level based on their age) and individual powers, which makes them different, but without making one weaker or stronger, just different.

    2. Conners Costume

    I personally like it that they get back to a Version of the old costume...I personally didnt like the TT Costume, BUT I would like to see Conner in a mix of TT and YJ Costume..Like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator....Use the black/red Shirt or the Fleischer Shirt of NEW52 Superman with Jeans,Boots,Leather Jacket and Pilot Sunglasses...

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    I don't care for varied powers amongst Kryptonians. I don't mind there being the occasional meta-Kryptonian who has powers not tied to their being Kryptonian (like a Kryptonian with psionics), but to me if you start varying the powers then why make them a race at all. If you want a Superman with TTK in place of breathing powers, for example, then make them a one-off like Conner who is a hybrid or a new race like the Argonians, Thoronites, Daxamites , …

    Personally the only major change I would introduce is removing the Red Sun weakness as a catch-all. I'd make the Kryptonian powers the result of various interacting factors so that some powers are inherent and others are conditional.

    On Krypton the gravity was heavier so your average human would require all their energy to take a single step. A top level athlete might be able to walk a foot before being exhausted. In the same way a Kryptonian under Earth gravity even if the sun was absent would be able to run a marathon without getting winded. Kryptonian senses would enable them to see bands of radiation (infra-red, alpha/beta/gamma) that humans can't see again in ANY environment. Stuff like that.

    The changes in the strength of energy they get under various stars would explain why their tissue is able to resist more damage on Earth than on Krypton. So under the red sun Rao they can still be cut by a sharp steel blade (one that would slice through you or me with a mere tap), under an orange star the blade would have to be moving a hundred times faster to do the same damage, and under Earth's "yellow" sun the balde would crumple against their skin. So there would be a scaling effect for some of their abilities, but a Kryptonaian would still have more power than you or me even under a red sun.

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    I don't care for varied powers amongst Kryptonians. I don't mind there being the occasional meta-Kryptonian who has powers not tied to their being Kryptonian (like a Kryptonian with psionics), but to me if you start varying the powers then why make them a race at all. If you want a Superman with TTK in place of breathing powers, for example, then make them a one-off like Conner who is a hybrid or a new race like the Argonians, Thoronites, Daxamites , …
    I agree, except I'd go further and say I really don't want meta Kryptonians.

    Personally the only major change I would introduce is removing the Red Sun weakness as a catch-all. I'd make the Kryptonian powers the result of various interacting factors so that some powers are inherent and others are conditional.
    That is an intriguing idea, but a bit complex, which I expect to lead to a lack of consistency/logical reactions and for it to become a "whatever the plot calls for" weakness, which I don't care for. If there was more thought, and strong consistency, I'd be a fan.

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    DB is brought up and eh... for one thing ki is far from unique as a concept and it had been specifically used in comics before DB. Between the I Ching character appearances you can even argue D.C. had it in the 70s. Secondly, since ki is living energy, it's not at all unique in DB. Do Saiyans have different powers... or just different techniques? The latter from all I know, now matter how unique.

    Kryptonians manifesting different powers might be interesting if it wasn't so redundant. Superman has more forgotten powers than most characters ever possess (chiefly a natural bio aura and malleable face), and there's typically room to bring some back if necessary. 90s Supergirl and Superboy had entirely different power sets due to their respective natures so along with Steel and AC the whole "family" was unique. New 52 Superboy was different still and Kara initially had her sonic scream and solar flare (one a forgotten Superman power and the other a power he would get through Johns) through augmented genetics. Zod's background completely affects the usage of his powers, while Faora relied on her crazy martial arts. Superman himself has a wealth of applications for the same old powers (vision and sound based most often) on top of his own martial arts, forgotten or downplayed psychic training, utilization of reality bending will, sundipping, and maybe some facet I'm forgetting.
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    Hmm, if anything Jon and Conner should have less powers that a pure Kryptonian or a at a lesser level given they are Kryptonian/Human hybrids. After all, while Kryptonian physiology gets powered up by solar energy, humans do not.

    On a side note, DC really needs to enforce what the native Kryptonian environment should be. If the planet is bigger or higher gravity than Earth, then Kryptonians would be naturally denser and stronger than humans in an Earth-like environment even w/o a solar power up. Maybe even make Superman might little bit more powerful under a yellow sun as his body grew up under a yellow sun and has learned to process it more efficiently.

    Anyway, there has been some variation in super powers among inhabitants of different red planets thought super-strength and flight seem to be common.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Hmm, if anything Jon and Conner should have less powers that a pure Kryptonian or a at a lesser level given they are Kryptonian/Human hybrids. After all, while Kryptonian physiology gets powered up by solar energy, humans do not.
    My preference would be Jon less powerful and Kon back to his origins as a human with altered genes and no Kryptonian DNA with only tactile telekinesis. But those ships have sailed. Kon is half-Clark and Jon has hybrid vigor.

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