You know DK3 The Master Race would be perfect to do an animated feature. It would adapt really well. And Supes has some great moments with breaking out the dark universe and fighting Quar's people. He and Bats also patch up their relationship. We'd see Carrie and Lara because they are the next world's Finest. And we see Wonder Momma nurturing baby Jon and kicking ass!
Of course it would be too easy to stay true to the source material for Diana for these people at DCAU who love to take away from her because of their anti smww stance. So like KC , maybe I should be glad it would prob never be done.
How I wish!!!
Wonder Woman needs to save Superman!!!!
Joking aside if fans want Cavill to continue, people need to realistic.What was done was not enough to capture the hearts of the non fan boys. Fan boys are not the only people big execs want to please. There is a reason why WB won't do a MOS 2. It is too risky. After doing well with WW and AM, why would you want to do a movie sequel that might not even better its first outing? They would want MOS2 to exceed the first and do better to keep the momentum of the movies. Anything that is less if a failure and would disrupt the DCEU that is just beginning to get some buoyancy. So really apart from leaving Superman alone for a decade and ignoring him until they decide to try again with new everything...they can try to do as we all discussed. If he guest spots and is well received, then maybe then...who knows...the way Civil War was an event done around Cap, they could do something like an event with SM and the rest. Until that time...Wonder Woman to me is the best vehicle. Look at the way Dr Strange was in Thor and was so effective. It could be as brief as that or as involved as Hulk was.
I definitely should I have reread that panel. It's been a while since I read this and I think I was confusing it with something else.
Couldn't agree more with your assessment. And just as you stated it is how I see the ID being utilized. i think we mentioned this in the recently closed thread. The ID should be used as a means for them to "blend in" if you will and move around undetected so that they are able to walk amongst humanity without being bombarded. Partake in it, observe it, broaden their experience and mindset. Gain an even deeper understanding of the struggles, cares, concerns of the everyday man, woman, child. This is exactly what they should be doing, and why works such as WW: Spirit of Truth and SM: Peace on Earth stand out. They are able to showcase what makes SM and WW the compassionate characters that they are. There willingness to let go of their personal comforts as they seek to not only understand but move among the people they seek to help so that they are better able to serve them. To me, that is Diana, that is Clark. Not the mawkish tepid storylines that we currently get where they are vaunted as being heroic or "hopeful" characters who care, but there is nothing to really show for it or make one believe that there is anything extraordinary about them.
The mindset of the writer, their emotional intelligence, along with their own life experiences in some ways will impact the type of story that is written about these characters.
You make so many good points that I feel that I might as well have just bolded and underlined everything, because each point resonated deeply. Where do I start? We are both in agreement with the ID. Like you, I don't believe it needs to be utilized all the time, but I do see it also being used as a means for privacy. As someone who cherishes her privacy and I'm not even a celebrity, along with the ID being used as a means of moving along and connecting with humanity, I also see it as being used as a means of blending in for privacy sake. Yes, there is nothing wrong with the world knowing that they are together if they so choose, because they have no need to be ashamed, but in terms of intimacy and being able to keep certain things for themselves, being able to cherish and enjoy their alone time together, or just for sanity and peace sake, I do see the ID as being important. They do not need to be public spectacles, having every move they make in and out of uniform catalogued and remarked upon. I'm sure that can get tiring really fast.
"He should be writing from other parts of the world and country. Parts of the world and US that the media often forgets after a big story breaks, like life after that hurricane, earthquake, during drought"
"Clark can take any subject and do this and he can inform and educate people that there is more to unite us than divide us"
I couldn't agree more with this. That is honestly how I would think Clark Kent would be by now. His focus and interest should be in highlighting the human interest pieces globally. I see him as being an international correspondent speaking from far out regions and territories normally forget or usually only spotlighted during turmoil or something equally negative. He should to be about "giving voice to the voiceless," bringing to light the invisible and marginalized populations, showcasing the highs and lows of humanity. Their triumphs as well as their struggles. The everyday as well as inspirational things that makes humanity what it is. However, as you said with get questionable "investigative" journalism or stories in which he hands over to another character so it can be lauded about her "Pulitzer" winning status (insert eye roll).
There is an opportunity to do so much with the SM and WW characters if DC/WB were interested in telling meaningful stories rather than surface level/superficial ones. Comics didn't always use to be about dumbing things down. Ones upon a time they also challenged readers to think differently, confront their biases, and think deeper.
"while he might be more an expert at the world, he lives in it longer than she has, she can offer that innocence and freshness and amazon passion that even one as himself ( an idealist) can connect with"
In addition to that, I feel that what has been moved away from is that Diana is also supposed to be a wise character (blessed by Athena). Not only is she able to offer a more untainted view of things due to not having lived in 'Man's World' for long she is also able to give one from a place of wisdom. She is a character who would analyze a situation from multiple positions in order to arrive at the best possible solution/conclusion given the circumstance. This is why I take issue with her being portrayed at times a character who dives in head first into battle without thought. As someone who has been trained as a warrior, she would be a person who would be deliberate in whatever move she made, in her thinking, in her decisions. Unfortunately, we hardly get to see that.
Clark and Diana while close to perfection in many ways, aren't perfect. I hate when people difficult to the lazy excuse of them being too perfect as characters and as such are boring. There is a whole plethora of ideas to be explored with them whether as individuals or as a couple. As you rightly stated, they can be very compelling on their own right when written correctly, and we have seen this done in the past. Being the symbols they are supposed to be, they are characters that time and effort should be taken to fully flesh out their stories on a continuous basis.
To adapt DK3, they should make a DKSA adaptation first, no?
WB isn't interested in doing a sequel to MoS, they want to "reboot" the franchise and, according to rumors, the search for a screenwriter is already started months ago. Probably, he'll make an appearance in the Supergirl movie they're writing for almost a year. Who knows?How I wish!!!
Wonder Woman needs to save Superman!!!!
Joking aside if fans want Cavill to continue, people need to realistic.What was done was not enough to capture the hearts of the non fan boys. Fan boys are not the only people big execs want to please. There is a reason why WB won't do a MOS 2. It is too risky. After doing well with WW and AM, why would you want to do a movie sequel that might not even better its first outing? They would want MOS2 to exceed the first and do better to keep the momentum of the movies. Anything that is less if a failure and would disrupt the DCEU that is just beginning to get some buoyancy. So really apart from leaving Superman alone for a decade and ignoring him until they decide to try again with new everything...they can try to do as we all discussed. If he guest spots and is well received, then maybe then...who knows...the way Civil War was an event done around Cap, they could do something like an event with SM and the rest. Until that time...Wonder Woman to me is the best vehicle. Look at the way Dr Strange was in Thor and was so effective. It could be as brief as that or as involved as Hulk was.
I'd prefer he'll have a presence in the WW franchise as you suggest, but if they recast I don't see it happening.
LOL OMG... 😱
It kinda seems like there’s no coordination with anything right now.
DK3 is while not perfect is still very entertaining!
Who wouldn’t jump at the chance to adapt Wonder Woman with a smiling baby strapped to her back kicking ass?!
In regards to the bolded and underlined part, I am unsurprised. Because it was clear from the onset of the story of Injustice, (all the ones written by Taylor) that he did not care for nor understand Diana. He further confirmed it in his goodbye letter regarding the ending of Injustice. Notice all the characters he mentioned about liking and notice who was glaringly obviously missing. This is why I continue to believe that writers who do not care for nor can they respect the objects in which they are writing about should not write about them. I am so sick and tired of Diana being disrespected and undermined by biased quack writers.
Why did this post make me emotional?
You have highlighted one of the reasons why I love and prefer Diana's clay origin. Because it is a testament of a mother's love and yearning that she came to be formed and brought to life. And to have it come full circle with Diana being able to bring forth life from her own womb is truly inspirational, miraculous, and one full of hope. It is simply amazing and wondrous, and the way you captured it in your comment makes me yearn to see this fully captured and expressed in the comics.
I've no idea of the reason of the delay. Maybe the art isn't finished. 🤔
It also features Batman. That alone make it worthy of an adaptation in DC Animation's eyes. 🤣DK3 is while not perfect is still very entertaining!
Who wouldn’t jump at the chance to adapt Wonder Woman with a smiling baby strapped to her back kicking ass?!
Yep this was the main conversation in the closed thread. It’s mind boggling that in some certain capacity, it is known exactly what the secret IDs are for, exactly what makes the SMWW dynamic what it is and work in a very positive light. We didn’t make any of this up in a way trying to push some certain head canon or fanon, this is written on page or shown in animation, but all of a sudden all of this is twisted around as not right? However, there is much effort to push things that are quite questionable and contradicting.
We do indeed need stories like this again because the true purpose of the characters is constantly chipping away.
I thought romita said first issue was finished?
LOL! Exactly 🤣 But I like that Lara is the one that takes most of the spotlight.It also features Batman. That alone make it worthy of an adaptation in DC Animation's eyes. 🤣
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They could I guess. But DKSA doesn't have the same critical acclaim as DK3. What they could do is fold the ideas from DK2 into DK3. I mean end of the day the only main thing in that leads into DK3 is Lara's existence. We don't need to know about Brainiac and Lex etc and Robin to understand and enjoy DK3.
LOL. I'm fine with that. As long as he is not turned into Steve Trevor 3.0.
Awww..shucks. Thanks. Sometimes I feel I care a little too much because I have to fight feeling down with all the shenanigans of DC/WB with these characters.
It is the only reason why I am okay with no talks of KC being made into live action any time soon. I honestly shudder to think what would be done to it if managed by the current team...:-/
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Exactly. Oh boy! It must be hard work working to intentionally sabotage ones own property such as what DC has been doing with SM and WW for some time. Eroding away at what made these characters what they were. Taking away from them their core and turning them into empty shallow versions of themselves.
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You're right. A quick explanation/exposition during the movie would be enough.
Like having him die again? 😅
We are probably all on the same boat here.Awww..shucks. Thanks. Sometimes I feel I care a little too much because I have to fight feeling down with all the shenanigans of DC/WB with these characters.
Better not think much about it. 😏It is the only reason why I am okay with no talks of KC being made into live action anytime soon. I honestly shudder to think what would be done to it if managed by the current team...:-/
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