Superman and Wonder Woman Appreciation 2019

[hellacre]

Every time this narrow minded backwards view is forced it’s like:


I love how SMWW is referred to as “Mom and Dad”. �� it’s great. But the main point is that majority of what we’ve talked about, has been brought up in some way. It’s not just talking out the backside, it’s been validated.It’s opening the mind to who these charcters are and suppose to represent. They are suppose to exceed the normal, yet “their” normal is very much relatable and relevant.

There has been a whole lot of irony, lately. The SMWW dynamic is understood, embrace and celebrated as motivation and inspiration. Trying to turn it into some doom and gloom has been totally dishonest, disrespectful and disconnected to the broader view.

YES. This sadly is too much like the current hysteria and phobia against "outsiders" on the whole. If they should get too strong they will destroy and take over. I always thought DC was better than this. It further makes me sad to think how the likes of Soule and Pak has left DC and gone over to Marvel because they did embrace the otherness of SM and WW as not a threat, but simply an aspect and an important part of who they are. I was glad to see at least Morrison and Azz also understood that SM and WW were inherently good characters and there would never be any chances of turning evil or destroying the world. They would sacrifice their own happiness to make the world a better place for all and never prioritize their comfort over the well being of innocents. If ever SMWW came back they need writers who understand this.

[Deiasilva10]

Wonder Barbie and Ken(t) Doll:

"Made for each other."







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Hehehehhehe! Cute!

[LoveStar]

Here’s more pics from the exhibit.

How new52 approached SMWW was exactly how it should’ve been. Two people of different worlds not belonging into any of them completely, yet still embrace them in ways to be whole. They find understanding in each other. That doesn’t stop them from being the heroes they are. Others may see them as Gods but they don’t see themselves as Gods. They don’t nor didn’t distant themselves. Its a compelling, complexed situation their partnership brings about.

“Aliens Among Us”

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[Deiasilva10]

YES. This sadly is too much like the current hysteria and phobia against "outsiders" on the whole. If they should get too strong they will destroy and take over. I always thought DC was better than this. It further makes me sad to think how the likes of Soule and Pak has left DC and gone over to Marvel because they did embrace the otherness of SM and WW as not a threat, but simply an aspect and an important part of who they are. I was glad to see at least Morrison and Azz also understood that SM and WW were inherently good characters and there would never be any chances of turning evil or destroying the world. They would sacrifice their own happiness to make the world a better place for all and never prioritize their comfort over the well being of innocents. If ever SMWW came back they need writers who understand this.

This is absolutely truth! Why is it so difficult for some writers to understand this? Or worse, why do they ignore it? To generate drama? Please, maybe this can be used once and then set aside for good! It's like Superman's bloody death! The poor guy dies every 5 years! The guy takes a beating of Doomsday and he dies!

[hellacre]

Here’s more pics from the exhibit.

How new52 approached SMWW was exactly how it should’ve been. Two people of different worlds not belonging into any of them completely, yet still embrace them in ways to be whole. They find understanding in each other. That doesn’t stop them from being the heroes they are. Others may see them as Gods but they don’t see themselves as Gods. They don’t nor didn’t distant themselves. Its a compelling, complexed situation their partnership brings about.

“Aliens Among Us”

https://twitter.com/cinemaonfire/sta...614014465?s=21






https://www.instagram.com/p/BuACE5WllCq/

Wow. Can someone send the heads at DC to take a look at this exhibit?

They came at a time we needed heroes...when the world was so dark we needed their light and their courage...and let us face it...for 2000 years humans have proven they have learned NOTHING...we might have gotten more tech savvy but we are still as inhumane to each other and anything that seems "different". The union of SMWW would indeed cause fear...but fear from dark quarters because they would fight for what is right. To push this idea together ( these two kind, compassionate, courageous people ) they will cause doom :X and it always is at Diana's feet they like to throw it...that is sexist and xenophobic...not smww getting together.

[hellacre]

This is absolutely truth! Why is it so difficult for some writers to understand this? Or worse, why do they ignore it? To generate drama? Please, maybe this can be used once and then set aside for good! It's like Superman's bloody death! The poor guy dies every 5 years! The guy takes a beating of Doomsday and he dies!

I can tell you some of the versions of SM and WW who are not fully realized as characters ...and as heroes...lacking proper growth and character development and motivations and challenges...I could never really care much for. And sadly these lazy, watered down versions exist. We know of many people still say things like SM is milquetoast, and vanilla...he has no problems, he just a flying brick who just has it all, never really has to sacrifice or even earn his place like Batman etc...well they are right because many stories simply give him quick fixes, deus ex machina solutions and yet they have the nerve to say he is so grounded and human ...when being human means a lot of %$#@ happens and you don't get to wave wands. Yeah you need a really good writer or good story to give bright characters the pathos they need without changing their core characteristics. Killing him is simply now a lazy troupe to go to. All heroes put their lives on the line, not only him. Punching hard does not make you the best.

[hellacre]

Wonder Barbie and Ken(t) Doll:

"Made for each other."







https://www.instagram.com/p/Btzc3kfA5jt/

Ah Brandon Routh gets his chance at romancing WW! If he had done maybe Superman Returns could have been better received. XD

[LoveStar]

This is absolutely truth! Why is it so difficult for some writers to understand this? Or worse, why do they ignore it? To generate drama? Please, maybe this can be used once and then set aside for good! It's like Superman's bloody death! The poor guy dies every 5 years! The guy takes a beating of Doomsday and he dies!

Punching the hardest isn’t inspiring. The death(s) are pointless and contrived especially when they have to screw over other characters just to make the death happen. Coming back and having this “Space Jesus” imagery as Hellacre has pointed out isn’t good either. Heroes are suppose to be alive to inspire, not having a contrived death.

Wow. Can someone send the heads at DC to take a look at this exhibit?

They came at a time we needed heroes...when the world was so dark we needed their light and their courage...and let us face it...for 2000 years humans have proven they have learned NOTHING...we might have gotten more tech savvy but we are still as inhumane to each other and anything that seems "different". The union of SMWW would indeed cause fear...but fear from dark quarters. To push this idea together ( these two kind, compassionate, courageous people) they will cause doom and it always is at Diana's feet they like to throw it...that is sexist...not smww getting together.

LOL right!

Reading all this...Forcing this belief that Superman and Wonder Woman’s “others” is bad, it’s something to resent. Superman going through identity crisis because he is trying to so hard to pretend for acceptance. Wonder Woman is deemed wrong for embracing her truth and end up having to lose her mind and everything to be forced to conform to “man’s world” ways and acceptance. Yeah, all of that is invalid and backwards. To know that what we’ve been discussing is the same view the diverse audience has is very meaningful.

[Deiasilva10]

I can tell you some of the versions of SM and WW who are not fully realized as characters ...and as heroes...lacking proper growth and character development and motivations and challenges...I could never really care much for. And sadly these lazy, watered down versions exist. We know of many people still say things like SM is milquetoast, and vanilla...he has no problems, he just a flying brick who just has it all, never really has to sacrifice or even earn his place like Batman etc...well they are right because many stories simply give him quick fixes, deus ex machina solutions and yet they have the nerve to say he is so grounded and human ...when being human means a lot of %$#@ happens and you don't get to wave wands. Yeah you need a really good writer or good story to give bright characters the pathos they need without changing their core characteristics. Killing him is simply now a lazy troupe to go to. All heroes put their lives on the line, not only him. Punching hard does not make you the best.

We fans are here to be surprised, to be shocked, to marvel at stories and situations ... that's what we want, that's what we deserve. We do not have to think too much about the stories and characters, we do not have the obligation to delve into them ... already the writer, yes, he has an obligation to know the character well and the obligation to give us rich characters, intelligent situations , funny, complex, simple, passionate and vibrant. If you, the professional, have in your hands a diamond mine like SM and WW in your hands and you only see them in a shallow, flat way, that gives us predictable stories and with ridiculous solutions you do not deserve them, you have no vision. .. is to give a Ferrari for a blind person to drive in the most beautiful landscape in the world.

Punching the hardest isn’t inspiring. The death(s) are pointless and contrived especially when they have to screw over other characters just to make the death happen. Coming back and having this “Space Jesus” imagery as Hellacre has pointed out isn’t good either. Heroes are suppose to be alive to inspire, not having a contrived death.

There is one thing that bothers me a lot in SM ... why a man who, in theory, listens to everything, has x-ray vision, superspeed and etc. simply goes into a fight exchanging punches and not using the right force at the correct point , at the right time ... I've seen him do it a few times, of course ... like for example in DKIII when he even surprises Batman. Some may say, "Doomsday does not have weaknesses" ... no, one thing I've learned by reading fiction over the years is that everything has a weakness ... and if there's anyone who can figure it out it's a focused, well-oriented SM and with correct support like what Diana gives!

LOL right!

Reading all this...Forcing this belief that Superman and Wonder Woman’s “others” is bad, it’s something to resent. Superman going through identity crisis because he is trying to so hard to pretend for acceptance. Wonder Woman is deemed wrong for embracing her truth and end up having to lose her mind and everything to be forced to conform to “man’s world” ways and acceptance. Yeah, all of that is invalid and backwards. To know that what we’ve been discussing is the same view the diverse audience has is very meaningful.

True!

[LoveStar]

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[Last Son of Krypton]

My dream would be they adapt KC for TV. Flesh it out in a series and it could make for a really cool story because it , more than many of their other stories, have a lot of real world and relevant themes. But not on their bland platform ( face it there is really no compelling reason atm to take up DC Universe...they have nothing the quality of GOT or TWD or ST that has high ratings and full of old stuff and rehashed content) . It would be better on Netflix or HBO. I know they doing Watchmen on HBO. I have Netflix and I like the casting so far for Jupiter's Legacy. I will tune in for sure.

KC would require a big budget. I think it's more suitable for a movie than for television or netflix.

[Deiasilva10]

KC would require a big budget. I think it's more suitable for a movie than for television or netflix.

KC asks for a trilogy and must be done in the style of the LotR, filming the three practically in unbroken sequence, preferably with a less stellar cast than the current of DCEU ... ok Cavill may be SM but I do not think Gal should be the WW since the WW version will not be hers. KC must be adapted with almost no change, it is a masterpiece that a wrong detail can spoil! I also believe that KC is the only DC story that faces the grandiosity of what Marvel has done and is doing now. Ah and I also think that after the KC's trilogy in the cinema will still have fat to burn in a series on Netflix or HBO produced by them since after watching the production of Titans and Doom Patrol by DC I pray to God that they stay well away from KC !

[Deiasilva10]

But let's go back to the unicorns and rainbow !!!! Ahhhh and by the way, happy Monday!!!!! A blessed week to us all!

Gender Reveal cupcakes and cookies !!!!



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[LoveStar]

There is one thing that bothers me a lot in SM ... why a man who, in theory, listens to everything, has x-ray vision, superspeed and etc. simply goes into a fight exchanging punches and not using the right force at the correct point , at the right time ... I've seen him do it a few times, of course ... like for example in DKIII when he even surprises Batman. Some may say, "Doomsday does not have weaknesses" ... no, one thing I've learned by reading fiction over the years is that everything has a weakness ... and if there's anyone who can figure it out it's a focused, well-oriented SM and with correct support like what Diana gives!

Firstly... he needs to be properly trained which he is not. And what I mean by trained is not only physical, but mentally and emotionally. He has all these powers however, very much reactive, at times hesitates and/or hold back. Diana pushes him to man up and do what he should and suppose to do. She pushes and tells him not to hold back.

But that doesn’t mean short change other stronger heroes or purposely bring in weaker heroes just for Superman to win and be the greatest hero of the day or whatever. If the JL can take on Darkseid or any other huge galactic invasions, they can take one trick pony Doomsday. That’s why stories like DOS is contrived and overrated.

KC would require a big budget. I think it's more suitable for a movie than for television or netflix.

It seems that DC/WB is constantly cutting budgets...a lot of their output has been seemingly cheap in general.

But let's go back to the unicorns and rainbow !!!! Ahhhh and by the way, happy Monday!!!!! A blessed week to us all!

Gender Reveal cupcakes and cookies !!!!



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Awe!!! So sweet! 😉❤️

[hellacre]

KC would require a big budget. I think it's more suitable for a movie than for television or netflix.

KC asks for a trilogy and must be done in the style of the LotR, filming the three practically in unbroken sequence, preferably with a less stellar cast than the current of DCEU ... ok Cavill may be SM but I do not think Gal should be the WW since the WW version will not be hers. KC must be adapted with almost no change, it is a masterpiece that a wrong detail can spoil! I also believe that KC is the only DC story that faces the grandiosity of what Marvel has done and is doing now. Ah and I also think that after the KC's trilogy in the cinema will still have fat to burn in a series on Netflix or HBO produced by them since after watching the production of Titans and Doom Patrol by DC I pray to God that they stay well away from KC !

As Deiasilva says a movie KC could never fully give us a KC. It would need more than just a 2 hr movie. The DCEU could never become KC. Cavill's SM is not that SM nor is Gal's WW that WW. This is preflashpoint SM and WW who were besties with some romantic tension. Henry SM never spoke beyond a sentence to Gal's WW, no one will care if they even attempted a KC using them because they built to nothing. They were building to Injustice. To a Superman who is emotionally and mentally tied to one person he banging so that if she die he become an evil dictator. Marvel built to Civil War and what we had there we were invested in, we cared. I pray these people never attempt a KC that is not built properly. You'd have to do more than one movie and it would need fleshing out etc It could be done in an animated movie but in 2 parts, or better even series but that current group in the DCAU team...yeah they would need to step aside. They would take Diana's role and give it away.

I'd argue that TV is giving us epic things. We won't talk about the cheap crap we see off the CW or DC Universe. Netflix or HBO is where its at. They are delivering great stuff too in the superhero genre. Better than CW or DC .

You could start present day, cut to flash backs, really flesh out characters etc. LOTR was a book no one thought they could adapt. They did it. People got caught up in a world of elves, orcs, hobbits etc. You just have to have the vision. WB has none as far as I am concerned. They are band wagoners or just care for Batman. They wait for others to do stuff then try to jump on the band wagon. It is rare they take the initiative and produce content THEY had first. Jupiter's Legacy, Astro City, Civil War, Marvel doing their most off beat characters , using their multiverse like Spiderverse .

Then when DC took their finger out and did WW and Aquaman ...and I love the irony it is these two that audiences embraced ....after these success then you hear some DC fans going...oh why can't we have that and do that for our character. Before they wouldn't see it but they want it when it gets success or they grudge those who get success. I don't know who thinks Injustice could be a good story to tell and it is probably the most damaging troupe to superman...him turning evil over something many many humans have to deal with and endure shows how weak a man he is from the start. KC on the other hand is about hope even in the face of adversity. Even Zachary Levi likes KC.