Superman and Wonder Woman Appreciation 2019

[LoveStar]

SuperWonder Couple at Boston ComicCon

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“Picture posing with Deadpool assisting with the cape wind effect 😂”


“Boston Comic-Con was dope I’m already looking for to next year 😁”


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[Deiasilva10]

"Wonder Woman and Superman always seemed to have a special understanding. They are both, by far, the most physically powerful heroes on Earth. And they are both outsiders. This understanding has resulted in a close friendship between the two, and has sometimes evolved into something more...” yes, yes... you discovered gunpowder! SM and WW even being from different franchises complement each other perfectly! I don't know if it was from the subconscious of the WW creator (since she came after him), I don't know if it was from the subconscious of the later writers, I don't know if it's from our subconscious but everything in between complements each other. It is perfection!

My actual review from my tumblr post. If anyone has questions feel free to ask. I might not have covered many details in the review itself.


Okay so just decided to share some of the pages from the Superman and Wonder Woman Plus Collectibles and give my own little review. The book itself comes with two figures. So it is part of the package, a sort of backup to two collectibles to inform even the most casual or new fan about Superman and Wonder Woman’s history.

The collectibles themselves are fine for what they are. Personally I would have preferred New 52 or Classic uniforms ie red trunks and star spangled bottoms. I especially do not care for the Reborn Superman suit because it looks like a onesie. I do not care if Superman has trunks or not but he really needs red boots. So this is a bias of mine I fully acknowledge. I might throw a lick of paint on his boots. Wonder Woman, eh this is her look all over now so she at least feels kind of just up to date as opposed to Rebirth onesie Superman.

The book itself, while I would have liked a hardcover, is 67 pages. The quality of the paper and print is very good. It has a nice high sheen and bright colors. The cover is a gorgeous print of Jason Fabok’s Superman and Wonder Woman The Ultimate Power Couple Justice League variant from the new 52. As a fan of the new 52 couple this was nice to see.

The book is clearly an amalgam of other books DC probably has written on Superman and Wonder Woman in order to try to give the reader an idea about the two heroes and their history apart and together. It has that feel that it is not one voice or era speaking. And this is evidenced by the different writers ie, James Hill , James Andrews, Neal Bailey , Jake Black and Matthew Manning. It, however, does a fairly good job trying to simplify the very convoluted history of DC from Action Comics #1 to Rebirth era. It presents timelines, different eras, milestones, iconic covers, origins, foes, love interests, events, character background etc and so forth on the two heroes. If you are not a staunch follower of DC this is fine. If you read comics and know your stuff then you might wonder where is a particular story or certain cover? But I get it. They needed to try to consolidate decades of history in a limited pages on two heroes who collectively have been around since 1938 and 1941. Diana is also called the First Lady of Superheroes, and is seen as Superman’s equal and a feminist icon since her inception.

Now one wonders with the Superman and Wonder Woman guides out there why there is even a need to do this. Some of this stuff surely could have been slotted in those books in a couple of pages but it seems that this book is some sort of effort to present them as a partnership, even if they have separate franchises.I am surprised they did this given the way they carry on about Batman/Superman as a duo. Batman has a book with him and the Joker btw in the same Superhero Collector series. But then they are of the same franchise so it was a pleasant surprise to see them put Superman and Wonder Woman together.

They are noticing and recognizing an obvious fact: that SMWW is the perfect dynamic duo even when it is not a dynamic duo!

They mention the Clark and Diana romance, dedicate pages to showing images and more or less seems to be trying to say, whether romance or close friends, they have a significant connection that is there and has always been there. The preface on the back cover also supports this and the page dedicated to them Partners in Justice. They mention their date back in Action 600 and even tried to suggest they stayed close in Rebirth. This is ironic because we know this to not be not exactly true. DC writers currently have been keeping Superman away from Wonder Woman, there is not the closeness of preflashpoint. They close of with a double splash page of Rocafort’s Young Romance cover and panels from that Truth or Dare story as well. I only wished they had included more of Charles Soule’s and Tony S Daniel’s Power Couple series Superman/Wonder Woman and Ross/Waid’s Kingdom Come. But then I guess this means people can go look for those stories and read them as they are mentioned.

No wonder most DC fans feel that something is missing at this stage, that the soul and heart of the DC universe is missing. Soul and heart are not imposed on fans by the words of editors and writers, no use in saying that so-and-so is the soul of the DC universe ... if fans don't feel it is a huge waste of time, it is a.... BUT... rules, ahhh rules, hehehehe... I know, I know...

The mere fact this book exists I would say is a good thing. At least to inform new and non fans. It’s a nice gift for a loved one or younger reader who are SMWW fans or who want to know more. It also is an affirmation that Superman and Wonder Woman have shared history and are a significant partnership in the DCU. Now if only current DC writers, tv writers and movie writers can remember that.

[Last Son of Krypton]

My actual review from my tumblr post. If anyone has questions feel free to ask. I might not have covered many details in the review itself.


Okay so just decided to share some of the pages from the Superman and Wonder Woman Plus Collectibles and give my own little review. The book itself comes with two figures. So it is part of the package, a sort of backup to two collectibles to inform even the most casual or new fan about Superman and Wonder Woman’s history.

The collectibles themselves are fine for what they are. Personally I would have preferred New 52 or Classic uniforms ie red trunks and star spangled bottoms. I especially do not care for the Reborn Superman suit because it looks like a onesie. I do not care if Superman has trunks or not but he really needs red boots. So this is a bias of mine I fully acknowledge. I might throw a lick of paint on his boots. Wonder Woman, eh this is her look all over now so she at least feels kind of just up to date as opposed to Rebirth onesie Superman.

The book itself, while I would have liked a hardcover, is 67 pages. The quality of the paper and print is very good. It has a nice high sheen and bright colors. The cover is a gorgeous print of Jason Fabok’s Superman and Wonder Woman The Ultimate Power Couple Justice League variant from the new 52. As a fan of the new 52 couple this was nice to see.

The book is clearly an amalgam of other books DC probably has written on Superman and Wonder Woman in order to try to give the reader an idea about the two heroes and their history apart and together. It has that feel that it is not one voice or era speaking. And this is evidenced by the different writers ie, James Hill , James Andrews, Neal Bailey , Jake Black and Matthew Manning. It, however, does a fairly good job trying to simplify the very convoluted history of DC from Action Comics #1 to Rebirth era. It presents timelines, different eras, milestones, iconic covers, origins, foes, love interests, events, character background etc and so forth on the two heroes. If you are not a staunch follower of DC this is fine. If you read comics and know your stuff then you might wonder where is a particular story or certain cover? But I get it. They needed to try to consolidate decades of history in a limited pages on two heroes who collectively have been around since 1938 and 1941. Diana is also called the First Lady of Superheroes, and is seen as Superman’s equal and a feminist icon since her inception.

Now one wonders with the Superman and Wonder Woman guides out there why there is even a need to do this. Some of this stuff surely could have been slotted in those books in a couple of pages but it seems that this book is some sort of effort to present them as a partnership, even if they have separate franchises.I am surprised they did this given the way they carry on about Batman/Superman as a duo. Batman has a book with him and the Joker btw in the same Superhero Collector series. But then they are of the same franchise so it was a pleasant surprise to see them put Superman and Wonder Woman together.

They mention the Clark and Diana romance, dedicate pages to showing images and more or less seems to be trying to say, whether romance or close friends, they have a significant connection that is there and has always been there. The preface on the back cover also supports this and the page dedicated to them Partners in Justice. They mention their date back in Action 600 and even tried to suggest they stayed close in Rebirth. This is ironic because we know this to not be not exactly true. DC writers currently have been keeping Superman away from Wonder Woman, there is not the closeness of preflashpoint. They close of with a double splash page of Rocafort’s Young Romance cover and panels from that Truth or Dare story as well. I only wished they had included more of Charles Soule’s and Tony S Daniel’s Power Couple series Superman/Wonder Woman and Ross/Waid’s Kingdom Come. But then I guess this means people can go look for those stories and read them as they are mentioned.

The mere fact this book exists I would say is a good thing. At least to inform new and non fans. It’s a nice gift for a loved one or younger reader who are SMWW fans or who want to know more. It also is an affirmation that Superman and Wonder Woman have shared history and are a significant partnership in the DCU. Now if only current DC writers, tv writers and movie writers can remember that.

Hmm... it doesn't give away many details. It's pretty vague about their pre-Crisis or post-Crisis history while focusing more on recent events from the New52 and Rebirth.
I'm not even asking too much like including rip-offs of SM/WW or show real life SM/WW related trends. 😅

[LoveStar]

"Wonder Woman and Superman always seemed to have a special understanding. They are both, by far, the most physically powerful heroes on Earth. And they are both outsiders. This understanding has resulted in a close friendship between the two, and has sometimes evolved into something more...” yes, yes... you discovered gunpowder! SM and WW even being from different franchises complement each other perfectly! I don't know if it was from the subconscious of the WW creator (since she came after him), I don't know if it was from the subconscious of the later writers, I don't know if it's from our subconscious but everything in between complements each other. It is perfection!

Quick search...here’s an excerpt from a Forbes article:

“Marston was an American psychologist who invented the systolic blood pressure test, which led to the creation of the polygraph machine, or lie detector. Marston’s experiments in psychology led him to believe that women were fundamentally more honest than men, and that the future of humankind lay in the hands of women. Viewing comic books as a potential tool to educate and influence the masses, Marston wanted to create a hero who would represent (what he considered) feminine values of kindness and compassion, without being perceived as weak. So he created Wonder Woman as the female answer to Superman.”

It’s always been more than just the powers that made them connect and be equal. It has been a mental, intellectual, and emotional connection. A challenge to the tradition and norms that’s not lazy role reversals but that men and woman men can be side by side.

They are noticing and recognizing an obvious fact: that SMWW is the perfect dynamic duo even when it is not a dynamic duo!

No wonder most DC fans feel that something is missing at this stage, that the soul and heart of the DC universe is missing. Soul and heart are not imposed on fans by the words of editors and writers, no use in saying that so-and-so is the soul of the DC universe ... if fans don't feel it is a huge waste of time, it is a.... BUT... rules, ahhh rules, hehehehe... I know, I know...

Superman and Wonder Woman’s emotional connection has been so profound. It truly does make such a huge difference.

[Last Son of Krypton]

Last bits. This with the Partners in Justice was posted as we closed. Big old splash page by Rocafort. lol.

But I would like to point out the anomalies in what DC saying. This book says Superman and Wonder Woman were in love, shared a life together. The Superman Diana loved died. Rebirth Superman and Wonder Woman remained close friends despite them not being a couple.

Then Diana's life was a lie???? But then here it seems that Rebirth Superman swallowed the life of new 52 Superman...so technically new 52 was a separate entity ( who fell in love with a lie...like wth???) yet Rebirth took him because he was the same person, just different life??? So is like saying Reeve can swallow Cavill and it be the same person...yeah bs but whatever it takes I guess to jump the shark to prop their reboot. And given jeans and tee Superman popped up I have no idea what DC is doing. And they have Azzarello's run in an Absolute format and in their Essential reading lists so...I guess lies read better than the current status quo??? They ( Didio and Lee) also admitted they trying to work out a timeline in a recent interview so they don't know either I guess.

Also we know it is a lie to say Superman and Wonder Woman in Rebirth have a strong friendship to mimic the past. We know they are trying their best to keep her far from him. The boys club is obviously more important than the woman Superman once called his best friend, and lover.






All I can say is best keep it simple for the new or casual fan because they will be as baffled as anyone if they knew all the ins and outs.

LOL wait...I don’t understand the rebirth mention? I’m guessing this was the idea to have them close but that didn’t actually happen because of the biasness involved? I think that would’ve been the more mature and respectful approach.

This again doubles down the fact that SMWW were in fact in love until new52 Superman was forced to die just because. It wasn’t the contrived plot-hole, contradicting revisionist inducing narratives pushed now with the supposed lost years or character’s having memory loss.
However, I don’t understand how either way SMWW could go back as close/best friends though? It’s like it’s known to be an important factor for them but this status quo prevented it to be so.

It says a “reboot” as well...so this confirms how confusing all this has been from the start.

I don't feel that saying that they are still close is a lie per se. It would be difficult to explain to casual readers what was going on that led the characters to their current status of generic acquaintances. Too much BTS of the DCEU and DC itself that influenced the course of things. It'd be probably needed writing a short essay to provide such explanation. Also, it would undermine the realization of this book saying that the characters aren't close anymore and their shared history is now... undefined.

[Deiasilva10]

Quick search...here’s an excerpt from a Forbes article:

“Marston was an American psychologist who invented the systolic blood pressure test, which led to the creation of the polygraph machine, or lie detector. Marston’s experiments in psychology led him to believe that women were fundamentally more honest than men, and that the future of humankind lay in the hands of women. Viewing comic books as a potential tool to educate and influence the masses, Marston wanted to create a hero who would represent (what he considered) feminine values of kindness and compassion, without being perceived as weak. So he created Wonder Woman as the female answer to Superman.”

It’s always been more than just the powers that made them connect and be equal. It has been a mental, intellectual, and emotional connection. A challenge to the tradition and norms that’s not lazy role reversals but that men and woman men can be side by side.

Balance, balance is the word.

Superman and Wonder Woman’s emotional connection has been so profound. It truly does make such a huge difference.

Superman and Wonder Woman represent the feminine / masculine ideal, the gender balance, the balance in the ways of loving and the conviviality between man and woman.

[LoveStar]

Super Wonder Cosplay

“Thank you @nerdcaliber & @wonderllamaphoto for the great shots at the @fanexpoboston Red Carpet Event! 📷🙌🏽 #justiceleague #dccouples”

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1eAdaWDrXv/

“#throwback to the best part of @fanexpoboston 2019–getting to meet the Green Arrow himself, @stephenamell 🏹💚 #justiceleague”

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1glNOLDk4u/

“#tbt to the first shared photoshoot I came up with to add to my blog posts with interviews on Amazing #cosplayers I've come to know. This is the Incredibly talented @vicariouscosplay as #wonderwoman . She's since built and done several more captivating cosplays so I encourage you to go check her out and follow. Her reciprocating support means everything to me 🤗”

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1dJdLKjqN9/

[Deiasilva10]

Super Wonder Cosplay

“Thank you @nerdcaliber & @wonderllamaphoto for the great shots at the @fanexpoboston Red Carpet Event! ������ #justiceleague #dccouples”

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1eAdaWDrXv/

“#throwback to the best part of @fanexpoboston 2019–getting to meet the Green Arrow himself, @stephenamell ���� #justiceleague”

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1glNOLDk4u/

“#tbt to the first shared photoshoot I came up with to add to my blog posts with interviews on Amazing #cosplayers I've come to know. This is the Incredibly talented @vicariouscosplay as #wonderwoman . She's since built and done several more captivating cosplays so I encourage you to go check her out and follow. Her reciprocating support means everything to me ��”

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1dJdLKjqN9/

It's funny how the "Clark Kent" figure is very present but "Diana Prince" as a secret identity is not ... it's as if Diana didn't need it.

[Last Son of Krypton]

Out of curiosity, I decided to research the first time both Superman and Wonder Woman appeared together on the same cover, and it seems to be All-Star Comics #36 (August 1947).

They appeared for the first time in the same panels, not just on the cover of that comic. Nothing major anyway.



There's a sort of precedent of SM/WW sharing a panel in Sensation Comics #33 (1944) where WW danced with a guy dressed as SM:

Hmm, that smww role paying art...interesting. Around that time DC played with SMWW too.

I guess it was a prototype of the SM/WW games we would've got decades later when they where dating. 😅

[LoveStar]

I don't feel that saying that they are still close is a lie per se. It would be difficult to explain to casual readers what was going on that led the characters to their current status of generic acquaintances. Too much BTS of the DCEU and DC itself that influenced the course of things. It'd be probably needed writing a short essay to provide such explanation. Also, it would undermine the realization of this book saying that the characters aren't close anymore and their shared history is now... undefined.

Issa lie. LOL i think we are all in agreement of the same thing just looking at it in different ways
This book has multiple writers involved and they still can not get what Rebirth is. It states the Superman Diana loves died but remained close to the Superman that replaced him. That’s a lie point blank. They do not have a connection. Even with the “Trinity” book, it was empty and trying to have this (shallow) “traditional” feel that wasn’t there. Also we are suppose to believe their relationship never existed in the first place. Then called rebirth a “reboot” but it’s supposedly a continuation of new52 but backpedalled and copy/paste pre52 stuff...which is it?? There are multiple discrepancies here.

What it's undermining is the rebirth narratives which 🙃 we don’t mind but yeah everything is pretty much undefined though.

Balance, balance is the word.

Yes! Simply put.

Superman and Wonder Woman represent the feminine / masculine ideal, the gender balance, the balance in the ways of loving and the conviviality between man and woman.

Yes! This is why their dynamic is so important and especially now in this time.

[Last Son of Krypton]

More edits of Articus Kent aka Wonder Boy, son of Superman and Wonder Woman:

"☆ WonderBoy art ☆"



https://www.instagram.com/p/B1J1BH2IY1p/

"☆ WonderBoy's symbol⚡☆"



https://www.instagram.com/p/B1EW6BJoZ5L/

"☆ WonderBoy edit 🔥 ☆"



https://www.instagram.com/p/B00128xogaj/

[Deiasilva10]

More edits of Articus Kent aka Wonder Boy, son of Superman and Wonder Woman:

"☆ WonderBoy art ☆"



https://www.instagram.com/p/B1J1BH2IY1p/

"☆ WonderBoy's symbol⚡☆"



https://www.instagram.com/p/B1EW6BJoZ5L/

"☆ WonderBoy edit �� ☆"



https://www.instagram.com/p/B00128xogaj/

Ahhh we need this boy! He must have life! Even being a fanart he has so much personality!

[Deiasilva10]

Issa lie. LOL i think we are all in agreement of the same thing just looking at it in different ways
This book has multiple writers involved and they still can not get what Rebirth is. It states the Superman Diana loves died but remained close to the Superman that replaced him. That’s a lie point blank. They do not have a connection. Even with the “Trinity” book, it was empty and trying to have this (shallow) “traditional” feel that wasn’t there. Also we are suppose to believe their relationship never existed in the first place. Then called rebirth a “reboot” but it’s supposedly a continuation of new52 but backpedalled and copy/paste pre52 stuff...which is it?? There are multiple discrepancies here.

What it's undermining is the rebirth narratives which �� we don’t mind but yeah everything is pretty much undefined though.



Yes! Simply put.




Yes! This is why their dynamic is so important and especially now in this time.

Their dynamics are pursued in each story in which they appear ... people expect an interaction between them, a joint action (I remember people expecting greater interaction between them in Justice League and wondering when it didn't). It is more or less when we expect a position from our father and mother, and we expect them to agree, disagree or bring a different option ... if they do not talk or interact there is a sense of emptiness, "divorce".

[LoveStar]

Ahhh we need this boy! He must have life! Even being a fanart he has so much personality!

Calling on fanfic writers! 😉

Their dynamics are pursued in each story in which they appear ... people expect an interaction between them, a joint action (I remember people expecting greater interaction between them in Justice League and wondering when it didn't). It is more or less when we expect a position from our father and mother, and we expect them to agree, disagree or bring a different option ... if they do not talk or interact there is a sense of emptiness, "divorce".

LOL! They in the “separation” stage... So basically SMWW need counseling....🤣 And funny, within the books it sure does seem so they need some kind of counseling given the memory loss, loneliness and identity issues

[Deiasilva10]

Calling on fanfic writers! ��



LOL! They in the “separation” stage... So basically SMWW need counseling....�� And funny, within the books it sure does seem so they need some kind of counseling given the memory loss, loneliness and identity issues

The best counselor now is Doctor Reboot.