Superman and Lois Lane Appreciation 2019

[cookies]

He did say a lot of the right things in that NYCC panel with Bendis, and was very complimentary of Lois, but I'm solidly with you all on his lacking the ability to actually tell good stories, particularly with any type of romantic angle or just women in general, anymore. So yeah, I don't trust him to a good origin and definitely don't trust him to write women at all. Lana will probably be some sort of stereotypical hayseed first love, Lois likely some variation of his femme fatale character. I expect she'll go undercover as a prostitute or something at one point, and who knows what he's going to do with Lori. I expect all three will be treated to the half baked pervy stuff he passes as romantic that people like to oversell as some transcendent statement on empowerment or whatever.



I don't expect it to bomb. It's going to sell well and will be ordered well. But I'll be surprised if it is critically well received or has any lasting impact on the character or line. I don't think he's actually written anything from like 2000 onward that has appealed to me and much of his modern output are examples of some of the worst comics published in the 2000's. I mean, Holy Terror, DKII and ASBAR are three of the worst comics to come out in that decade and all three of those were his own solo writing. DKIII was praised for mainly not being as bad as DKII and it's likely a lot of that goes to Azzrello's credit. So on that alone to expect some transcendent origin for Superman seems really overly optimistic.

And I also don't believe that it's being set up as an incontinuity origin at all. For one, I think if that was going to happen it would be Bendis to do it. He's taken the whole Superman line under his direction. Everything is basically going through him as he feels he's going to redefine Superman for the modern era. Regardless of your feelings on that, the idea that he'd let Frank Miller handle Superman's origin in that context is not something I think is likely. Every Superman book is basically under his direct or indirect control and he's handpicked everyone working on the offshoots, from Supergirl, to the Lois & Jimmy books. This is the Bendis show for now.

More likely, it will be like Batman Damned. Exist as its own thing, with probably a lot of people at DC paying lip service to it's "greatness" but beyond that not having any real impact on the direction of the character.

hopefully Miller don't mess with Lois too much lol.
speaking of Bendis, did you see his tweet today? interesting huh...
https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/sta...02301590708224
Action comics starting with 1006 is the lead up, THEN it REALLY ramps up in the 80 page Superman special, which is an enormous Superman story, and then #DCEVENTLEVIATHAN has Lois Lane in almost every panel. beyond that, no spoilers. its a MYSTERY story.

[cookies]

[rpmaluki]

hopefully Miller don't mess with Lois too much lol.
speaking of Bendis, did you see his tweet today? interesting huh...
https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/sta...02301590708224
Action comics starting with 1006 is the lead up, THEN it REALLY ramps up in the 80 page Superman special, which is an enormous Superman story, and then #DCEVENTLEVIATHAN has Lois Lane in almost every panel. beyond that, no spoilers. its a MYSTERY story.

Now I like the sound of that. I have to wonder if this leads to Rucka's Lois book, an event book of which Lois lane is an integral part of and not some lip service for us fans.

As for Miller, I hope he doesn't mess with Lois at all.

[cookies]

i love L&C cheesyness.

[cookies]

and then Jimmy c***block them again as usual XD

[adrikito]

DCAU universe(deviantart):

black_suited_superman_and_lois_lane_DCAU.jpg

[Yoda]

hopefully Miller don't mess with Lois too much lol.
speaking of Bendis, did you see his tweet today? interesting huh...
https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/sta...02301590708224
Action comics starting with 1006 is the lead up, THEN it REALLY ramps up in the 80 page Superman special, which is an enormous Superman story, and then #DCEVENTLEVIATHAN has Lois Lane in almost every panel. beyond that, no spoilers. its a MYSTERY story.

I saw that as well. Pretty interesting. Maybe it involves her search or rescuing of Sam Lane or working with him in this as well. But it’s got to be tying into her solo series.

Also hopeful this is a mystery event, with the stakes maybe more on the espionage side scale. Bendis’ universe altering events aren’t my favorite.

[Mel Dyer]

Absolutely, and even then at his worst, during that entire arc Superman was more preoccupied with Bruce's health than anything else. DKR's Superman was more a stooge than a fascist; he meant well, but he goosestepped in line because that's what any Good Ol' Boy would have. You're correct in thinking that's way off base for Superman and a big part of why I dislike DKR.

As for Miller's take on Superman and Lois Lane's relationship, I really hope he's got a positive take on them instead of the usual "Lois is his weak point, kill her and Injustice" or, well, Frank Miller female #45. She's a character, not a motivation. More than Clark, she's who I'm worried he'll botch.

I would love to be able to give Frank the benefit of the doubt, but he's contributed one DC book I've enjoyed and the rest have been mixed-to-downright woeful. That said, I'd be more than happy to eat those words and adore Superman: Year One.

Now that FM's got more time with Lois, he might go the other way with her...backwards.

I imagine him making her a crass, mocking, monstrously ambitious, chain-smoking gadfly, a grotesque echo of Shuster's earliest Golden Age interpretations of Lois. I imagine the Silver Age Lois being a mask. Underneath it, we find a tough-gal character that could make Miller's hard-as-nails Wonder Woman ..soil her star-spangled thong. I imagine FM making a hard-painted, provocative Lois, the Delilah to Clark's Samson, ..injector of fiery, molten drive into a younger, primordial 'Man of Steel'.

He did wonders with Tigra in the Orion series of the early 2Ks. In his hands, she became a wild, murderous justification for Orion's dark half. I remember thinking, if that's his mother, may the Old Gods help Orion!

Get ready for a surprise.

[rpmaluki]

I'm going to wait a while before I buy this year one story and see what folks say about. My biggest selling point is Lois Lane. If he messes with her as an important element of Clark's story or messes her dynamic with Clark, he/DC won't see a single red cent from me. Because this is YO, I get that the L&C relationship may not be full frontal, it is an origins of before Clark is fully realised as the hero we are familiar with. They will have different dynamic than what they have now. AA alien did the same thing and I enjoyed that, what I want is for miller to respect the characters and not project his feelings onto the page and warp what we know of these characters. There is a way of writing a strong independent Lois without jumping off a cliff into caricature territory. The same goes for Clark. So I'm going to take a 'wait and see" approach before I waste my money.

[Mel Dyer]

I'm going to wait a while before I buy this year one story and see what folks say about. My biggest selling point is Lois Lane. ...what I want is for miller to respect the characters and not project his feelings onto the page and warp what we know of these characters. There is a way of writing a strong independent Lois without jumping off a cliff into caricature territory...

In Lois's case, literally jumping off the proverbial cliff into caricaturity! [LOL] I miss that Lois, ..a little.

[TomariS]

From LnC 2x21:

by lane-and-kent-reporters

[TomariS]

Their faces: "I should call him/I should call her."

by lane-and-kent-reporters

[TomariS]

Part 3:

by lane-and-kent-reporters

[TomariS]

And the part where Clark destroys his phone...

by lane-and-kent-reporters

[TomariS]

i love L&C cheesyness.

"I'm attached to Lois Lane. I fell in love with her, I admire her...I depend on her." Since 1938, Clarkie! No matter how many other "love interests" some give you, your choice is always her. >=P