For me the solicit sounds just ok. A lot of stuff that we already knew like the dark multiverse being involved and Fuginaut. So nothing new bad or good for the most part. Might mean that the story will drag on and nothing actually happen until the end like most series these days.
I like that some parts of the solicit still make Wally out to be a hero with "who do u turn to?" And being the "chosen champion". What I don't like is "now a man with nothing left to live for." And "or will Wallys own demons win the day?" Thats just depressing.
I was hoping that the horrific HIC wouldn't even be acknowledged but I guess the best I could hope for is that this dark multiverse has infected Wally. But probably too much to hope for. Don't really want to see Wally struggle if hes a good person or not in this context.
What are your guys reasons for your feelings on this?
My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.
Favorite Heroes - 1-Flash/Wally West, 2-Superman, 3-Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, 4-Nightwing, 5-Hawkman, 6-Firestorm, 7-Supergirl/Linda Danvers, 8-Zatanna, 9-Robin/Tim Drake
This Tempus Is a good guy or a bad one? I didn't read anything from The New Age of Heroes.
Anecdote I heard about MCU Iron Man is a good summary of Didio’s mindset I think. RDJ wanted Tony and Pepper to get married and have a kid in Iron Man 3. The studio shot that down, and the logic they used was “Iron Man is cool. Do you know who is not cool? Dad.” They’re afraid kids and teens won’t like the characters if they resemble the readers real world fathers too much I guess. Frankly I think that’s idiotic, Batman has been a surrogate father ever since Dick Grayson first showed up. That never hurt his popularity any.
He's a good guy. Perhaps a little on the strict side when it comes to enforcing his mission (protecting the boundaries of the various Multiverses) but I guess it's understandable.
Also, I don't want Flash Forward to be a stealth Sideways Season 2 book (I still hope to see a second volume of Sideways) but the Unseen (Dark Multiverse counterparts of Superman's supporting character who turned out to be physically monstrous but kind-hearted) could perhaps help Wally remember that he is a hero.
I said the Flash Forward solicit sounds interesting but I don't know how good it will be since as far as I know no one else except Snyder has used the Dark Multiverse.
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Favorite Characters:
DC: The Flash (Jay & Wally), Starman- Jack Knight, Stargirl, & Shazam!.
MARVEL: Daredevil, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), & Doctor Strange.
Current Pulls: Not a thing!
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ConnEr Kent flies. ConnOr Hawke has a bow. Batman's kid is named DamiAn.
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And I think this hits a lot of modern readers the wrong way because of just how long and successful the period was where teenage sidekicks grew into adults, a period that saw the heydays of Titans, the “side-kick” promotion, and a period that wound up being the jumping on point for a lot of us. And among those readers, there’s not really any ageism, and in fact, sometimes we actually dislike making a “veteran” hero young unless it’s in short, flashback stories.
I mean, Batman has always been some guy in his late 30’s to mid 40’s for me in terms of his feel: he was on his third Robin by the time I was born, with two sidekicks already into their mid- to late-twenties (since Babs as Oracle was older than Nightwing) and was a proven badass. Superman never really needed to feel younger than that to me - I always thought of him as a peer of Batman, maybe a bit younger, but a peer nonetheless. Wonder Woman was an Amazon, so age meant nothing there... which, come to think of it, applied to Superman, too...
And of course, I grew up with Wally West as the Flash, and became addicted to comics really when I read The Return Of Barry Allen, a storyline all about making this former teen sidekick a matured, veteran adult hero for those who still doubted him. Hal Jordan had grey temples and became Parallax before Kyle Rayner showed up, and Connor Hawke was Green Arrow. The last two I think maybe show where Didio’s fear maybe has its true genesis - a fear that successor characters will end up less marketable and less successful than the characters they replace.
But I think the real heart of the matter is that Didio just has odd, kind of off-kilter, and not-very-applicable-to-The-Main-Audience taste in stories and characters. His anti-adult-sidekick stigma probably comes from just not caring about the characters and constructing a reason in his own head to justify seeing them as a threat.
Like action, adventure, rogues, and outlaws? Like anti-heroes, femme fatales, mysteries and thrillers?
I wrote a book with them. Outlaw’s Shadow: A Sherwood Noir. Robin Hood’s evil counterpart, Guy of Gisbourne, is the main character. Feel free to give it a look: https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asi...E2PKBNJFH76GQP
But those characters AREN'T a threat!!
They simply add to the predecessor.
It's already proven that Kyle and Hal work well together storywise.
Same goes for Connor and Ollie. Or Ollie and Roy for that matter.
We'll never know with Barry and Wally as Didio has stripmined everything good from Wally and grafted it onto Barry Allen 2.0
And while other sidekicks have been given a great disservice since he took the reins, NONE have suffered the scorched Earth policy like Wally.
Everything that made him a distinct character has been taken away and added to Barry Allen lore - and in doing so (IMO) done a great disservice to both characters.
Before Flash Rebirth we could've had a functional Flash Family if TPTB had wanted it.
Where we stand now, it is going to take some SERIOUS heavy lifting just to make Wally viable again.
And THAT is SOLELY because editorial decided it to be.
"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
Sounds like those execs had awful fathers and don't believe in setting a better example. They probably hated Unforgiven, Commando and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, all of which feature dad's in prominent roles and are considered cool by most male viewers.
My dad is a former air force pilot who read comics and got into more trouble than the entire Sandlot. Even when he's being a jerk, he's still pretty cool.
Sad to see parents constantly treated like someone to be ashamed of. I certainly never felt that way growing up.
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Someone on reddit spoiled a double page from Flash 76 and it is
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Barry and the Pre/Post Flashpoint fam all running together. No Jai or Irey but Wally is there.