Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 100
  1. #46
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    283

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OBrianTallent View Post
    My only problem with the whole movie is they cast an actress or color as a point of diversification and cast a Caucasian actress as the Huntress which is a character of color. It just makes no sense at all.
    I totally agree. I do NOT get why they thought it was a good idea to cast the black girl to play this role simply because the character's name is "Black" Canary. It seems WAAAY reductive to me and a tad bit offensive/racist.

  2. #47
    Ultimate Member MajorHoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    16,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OBrianTallent View Post
    My only problem with the whole movie is they cast an actress or color as a point of diversification and cast a Caucasian actress as the Huntress which is a character of color. It just makes no sense at all.
    When did Huntress technically become "a character of color"?

    She's usually been of somewhat Italian-American descent in the past, hasn't she?
    (Or does "character of color" encompass just about any shading that isn't purely pale white Anglo-Saxon?)

  3. #48
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    36,243

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    When did Huntress technically become "a character of color"?

    She's usually been of somewhat Italian-American descent in the past, hasn't she?
    (Or does "character of color" encompass just about any shading that isn't purely pale white Anglo-Saxon?)
    Grayson/Rebirth Helena Bertinelli, where she was meant to be depicted as an Afro-Italian (I think?).

  4. #49
    Fantastic Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    283

    Default

    So, I'm not a fan of Grace Randolph, but her "sources" are saying that WB are talking about a solo Black Canary movie...

  5. #50
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    36,243

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stromberg View Post
    So, I'm not a fan of Grace Randolph, but her "sources" are saying that WB are talking about a solo Black Canary movie...
    I think WB is in talks about a lot of solo movies .

  6. #51
    Fantastic Member Gurz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    335

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    When did Huntress technically become "a character of color"?

    She's usually been of somewhat Italian-American descent in the past, hasn't she?
    (Or does "character of color" encompass just about any shading that isn't purely pale white Anglo-Saxon?)
    You finally realised that huh ? congrats.
    Favorite DC Chraters:
    1-Batman, 2-Nightwing, 3-Black Adam, 4-Cassandra Cain, 5-Aquaman,6-Catwoman, 7- Wesley Dodds (Sandman),8-Green Lantern, 9-Supergirl, 10-Green Arrow
    Favorite Marvel Characters:
    1-Wolverine, 2-Blade, 3-Punisher, 4-Daredevil
    Favorite Image, Top Cow Characters:
    1-Darkness, 2-Witchblade, 3-Invincible, 4-Spawn, 5-Dragon
    Favorite Valiant Characters:
    1-Bloodshot

  7. #52
    Extraordinary Member Johnny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    5,218

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stromberg View Post
    I totally agree. I do NOT get why they thought it was a good idea to cast the black girl to play this role simply because the character's name is "Black" Canary. It seems WAAAY reductive to me and a tad bit offensive/racist.
    I always thought it was because Margot Robbie took part in the casting process since she's a producer on the movie and probably just didn't want to have another hot blonde on the team. Not that Harley Quinn should have any business being a BoP member, let alone a founding member, but if they were not going to go with the New-52 version of Huntress, they were left with two blond white women on the team. I'm guessing Margot just didn't want that. At least those are my speculations.
    Last edited by Johnny; 02-11-2019 at 09:47 AM.

  8. #53
    Ultimate Member MajorHoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    16,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurz View Post
    You finally realised that huh ? congrats.
    Hey, don't get smart.

    There are some people who have tan / tinted skin who would not necessarily be considered "non-Caucasian". Referring to those people as "people of color" would be making it sound like they're a minority the same way that a person with red hair is a "minority" simply because their hair color isn't as typical as black hair / brunette hair / blonde hair.

    Should "person of color" refer strictly to pigmentation without taking into account heritage?

  9. #54
    Astonishing Member j9ac9k's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    3,308

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kjn View Post
    Posted in the DC movie thread:

    As costumes go, this rates a solid "meh" from me. I can understand ditching the fishnets, but Black Canary has always had a biker, trucker, or mechanic sensibility to her. The materials are simply too nice here. The flared pants also feels off—I think a solid pair of boots is important to her character. The top is way too small, and why is it yellow? The jacket ought to be short, not the full-length shown here.

    The jewelry also feels very un-Dinah to me. She should never be afraid to get her hands dirty.
    As others have said, I highly doubt this is her "costume." Looks like civilian attire to me. And while yes, Black Canary's initial look came from the old "biker chick/ bad girl" aesthetic, times change and that image doesn't mean now what it used to mean and for a young woman to adopt that look in the 21st century says something different within the current cultural context. These characters that have been around for more than half a century need to be adapted for modern times to reach a larger audience. Hopefully, however they interpret the modern "bad girl" that Dinah is in this adaptation fits her better than the version they tried in the "Birds of Prey" tv show.

    And I don't see how the face-jewelry is less practical than her wearing her long hair out or wearing a choker.

  10. #55

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by j9ac9k View Post
    As others have said, I highly doubt this is her "costume." Looks like civilian attire to me. And while yes, Black Canary's initial look came from the old "biker chick/ bad girl" aesthetic, times change and that image doesn't mean now what it used to mean and for a young woman to adopt that look in the 21st century says something different within the current cultural context. These characters that have been around for more than half a century need to be adapted for modern times to reach a larger audience. Hopefully, however they interpret the modern "bad girl" that Dinah is in this adaptation fits her better than the version they tried in the "Birds of Prey" tv show.

    And I don't see how the face-jewelry is less practical than her wearing her long hair out or wearing a choker.
    A great and more modern adaptation was Injustice 2. Her look and attitude and even her walk were also very on-point. When Dinah told Bruce that she was sticking around this time because she couldn't be there to take down Superman gave me chills.

    Last edited by Keyotheseasons; 02-11-2019 at 11:38 AM.

  11. #56
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    36,243

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyotheseasons View Post
    A great and more modern adaptation was Injustice 2. Her look and attitude and even her walk were also very on-point. When Dinah told Bruce that she was sticking around this time because she couldn't be there to take down Superman gave me chills.

    Her Rebirth costume would also probably be pretty easy to adapt into live-action.

  12. #57
    Astonishing Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    4,803

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kjn View Post
    As costumes go, this rates a solid "meh" from me.
    Sofar all of the pictures from the BoP movies I have seen were kind of meh, and non of the characters looked like their comic book counter part.

  13. #58
    Ultimate Member MajorHoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    16,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    Sofar all of the pictures from the BoP movies I have seen were kind of meh, and non of the characters looked like their comic book counter part.
    Perhaps that's a blessing in disguise . . .

  14. #59
    Ultimate Member MajorHoy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    16,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by j9ac9k View Post
    . . . And while yes, Black Canary's initial look came from the old "biker chick/ bad girl" aesthetic, . . .
    How common was the "biker chick" aesthetic back in 1947?


  15. #60
    Ultimate Member Ascended's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    10,916

    Default

    Yeah, "biker chick" is still pretty gods damn common. Anyone who thinks differently has apparently never gone to Bike Week.

    I got no issue with Dinah wearing modern fashion, but I still want that to be an accurate reflection of her character. What the actress is wearing in those images is a little too "pop music" when it should be closer to "classic Metallica" yknow?

    But again, who knows? Maybe they'll do right by Dinah. We cant say one way or another from a few random photos without context.

    I mean, I wouldn't bet on them getting her right, but that's because the DCEU has screwed up too often for me to trust WB. But we dont know.
    Higher, Faster, Further....More.

    Truth, Justice, and a Better Tomorrow!

    Bridge Four!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •