Emma Frost: White Queen Appreciation 2019

[spirit2011]

It's easy to expect characters we stan to move on but being in love isn't that easy, so I highly doubt this. Not to mention that despite Jott's power in continuity, popularity, marketability and history, Scemma now has power in all those variables, too. It's not going away like most random comicbook pairings so I'd expect another writer and editor to come in and bring them back.

it already went away 7 years ago.

[ButterRum]

Wait, Havok died in UXM? How did I miss that?

Also what happened to Callahan dying? People say his head got cut off, but I didn't see it....

I bought the issue on ComiXology.

[KangMiRae]

it already went away 7 years ago.

Except it didn't and won't (no matter how hard you cry about it in these appreciation threads—namely Emma's.).

[spirit2011]

Except it didn't and won't (no matter how hard you cry about it in these appreciation threads—namely Emma's.).

If that is your opinion, fine. but it isn't reflected on comics

[ExodusCloak]

Callahan planters device inside Havok that cause his powers to become unstable when he used them. And he exploded fighting some sentinels. Cause you know the first priority was eavesdropping on Scott and Danis conversation and not getting Dr Nemesis to remove the device

[KangMiRae]

If that is your opinion, fine. but it isn't reflected on comics

You should learn how the industry works. Comicbooks are cyclical.

[ExodusCloak]

If that is your opinion, fine. but it isn't reflected on comics

It was the focus of IvX and the focus of this arc. It never went away. It was also brought up in secret empire

Every time Emma and Scott are in the same room together it'll be brought up. Etched in X-universe history forever.

[phoenixzero23]

You should learn how the industry works. Comicbooks are cyclical.

I honestly don't think either Jott or scemma would pull much sales, romances on Marvel on general don't do it (unless peter/mj). Rogue and Gambit are currently the best X-couple and they didn't sell much.
what would sell in any case is star power.

[Omega Alpha]

The reverse applies as well. Scemma is too big to sweep under a rug. Jott now has an expiry date. Eventually they're Archie and Veronica it


In any case given Marvels disdain for stable relationships Omega Alpha is correct. Scemma was never wholesome or stable which is why it works because it means their relationship can pretty much sit there on shaky ground for 30 years. While with Jean and Scott it means settling down buying a house having kids which isn't going to happen unless the franchise dies

In terms of character though Scott is regressed.

Exactly. If that's the case, it's only a matter of time until someone that prefers Scott and Emma (and it's a lot of people) takes over the X-books. And, like I said, the fact that they were never wholesome or perfect is a feature, not a bug, because you can have potential for stories for a long time. I'll say again- there has NEVER been more than a couple of years of Scott and Jean relationship since GSXM that there wasn't a love triangle or Phoenix related shenanigans involved, or both, because the couple is too uninteresting on it's own, and needs external elements for conflict.

Scott and Emma, meanwhile, didn't need that (not even Namor, because, without her mind being altered, Emma never really showed any serious aspirations of sleeping or being involved with him, and even any interested required a heavy-handed retcon that didn't made sense)- you had the conflict of the X-men reacting to that relationship so soon after Jean died, the fact the two had different world-views (that became more similar with time), there was conflict with Scott keeping X-force a secret from Emma because he knew the X-men would blame her for it (him with Jean, the conflict doesn't exist or most likely he never puts X-force together), conflict about Emma's involvement with the Cabal (that never happens if Jean's around), etc.

[KangMiRae]

I honestly don't think either Jott or scemma would pull much sales, romances on Marvel on general don't do it (unless peter/mj). Rogue and Gmabit are currently the best X-couple and they didn't sell much.

It's not about the couples specifically, it's about what people know. People complain about nostalgia all the time, but nostalgia sells no matter how much the vocal minority complains about it. When sales get low enough for Marvel, not for X-Men but for the entirety of Marvel, they reset back to the status quo. Status quo is Jott, however Scemma has gained enough power to contest Jott. It cannot and will never be swept under the rug as Cloak said.

JDW and Hickman themselves know things will always reset in the Big Two. That's the industry.

The fun thing about comicbooks is seeing how long they can go without a reset.

[spirit2011]

It was the focus of IvX and the focus of this arc. It never went away. It was also brought up in secret empire

Every time Emma and Scott are in the same room together it'll be brought up. Etched in X-universe history forever.

IvX is about Emma grief and going a bit crazy, this arc Emma still loves Scott.

it is just one sided

[ExodusCloak]

IvX is about Emma grief and going a bit crazy, this arc Emma still loves Scott.

it is just one sided

But that's thing you have Havok in IvX telling Medusa this is all about Scott and Emma, it always was about Scott and Emma

You have Cullen Bunn bring it up.
You have this arc focus on it

It never went away

It's something that will always be referenced.

[Omega Alpha]

JDW and Hickman themselves know things will always reset in the Big Two. That's the industry.

DC does it more literally than Marvel.

It was the focus of IvX and the focus of this arc. It never went away. It was also brought up in secret empire

Every time Emma and Scott are in the same room together it'll be brought up. Etched in X-universe history forever.

It was the focus of the two most acclaimed runs of the 21st century so far(and Whedon's is the best seller). Not only it won't go away, writers and editors that were reading it as kids/teens will take over the books eventually. Also, the relationship even made a cartoon already (although one that only lasted one season).

[phoenixzero23]

It's not about the couples specifically, it's about what people know. People complain about nostalgia all the time, but nostalgia sells no matter how much the vocal minority complains about it. When sales get low enough for Marvel, not for X-Men but for the entirety of Marvel, they reset back to the status quo. Status quo is Jott, however Scemma has gained enough power to contest Jott. It cannot and will never be swept under the rug as Cloak said.

JDW and Hickman themselves know things will always reset in the Big Two. That's the industry.

The fun thing about comicbooks is seeing how long they can go without a reset.

Scott and Maddie was totally swept under the rug, Scott and Jean were for more than a decade, Scott and Emma were going to be swept the moment he dated any other girl even if it was not Jean. Cyclops fans don't care who he is dating as long has he is dating someone
Marvel is not DC

[ExodusCloak]

DC does it more literally than Marvel.



It was the focus of the two most acclaimed runs of the 21st century so far(and Whedon's is the best seller). Not only it won't go away, writers and editors that were reading it as kids/teens will take over the books eventually. Also, the relationship even made a cartoon already (although one that only lasted one season).

And conversely the affair is something that will still be brought up no matter how much they chat on panel about it.

It's like the whole hank Pym slapping wasp. It'll never go away