Emma Frost: White Queen Appreciation 2019

[FIGHT]

From AIPT's Twitter livestream: - “She’s arguably the most powerful person on Krakoa.” - @JHickman on #EmmaFrost.

A bit much. She is one Psychic among many.

[Diammandis]

A bit much. She is one Psychic among many.

I think they are talking about how shes powerful in the sense of she runs sh*t in Krakoa, cause without her trading company a lot of what is happening in Krakoa would be difficult to achieve

[Diammandis]

I think they are talking about how shes powerful in the sense of she runs sh*t in Krakoa, cause without her trading company a lot of what is happening in Krakoa would be difficult to achieve

Not to mention She's the face of Krakoa, she is in charge of shipping the one item that places prominence upon the nation which is the drugs, she chose her 3rd seat and has a 50 year contract with X and Mags as the sole distributer of the product as well. She literally runs ****

[DragonPiece]

Seems like Emma fans really got a turn around from how dark things seemed at the beginning of the year.

[Badou]

Yeah, Emma really got thrown under the bus during that period when Jean was coming back. It is nice to see it even out again where it feels like she is an important member again instead of being someone to blame for things.

[Gray Lensman]

Not to mention She's the face of Krakoa, she is in charge of shipping the one item that places prominence upon the nation which is the drugs, she chose her 3rd seat and has a 50 year contract with X and Mags as the sole distributer of the product as well. She literally runs ****

Exactly. There's more to power than just what you can do personally. If you can give an order and it is almost certain to be obeyed, then you have more power than just your personal reach.

[RachelGrey]

Yeah, Emma really got thrown under the bus during that period when Jean was coming back. It is nice to see it even out again where it feels like she is an important member again instead of being someone to blame for things.

I actually hope that they have Jean and Emma working together occasionally, just so that it's clear that they aren't shunting either of them to the side for once and they both get to be prominent in the books together at the same time.

I am definitely glad Emma is going to get a chance to shine over the next year. It does sound like her role on the books is mostly as a politician and ambassador of Krakoa along with being the CEO of the Hellfire Corporation. Still it's going to be interesting and I imagine she will get pulled along on missions from time to time.

[Punch Dimension.]

Seems like Emma fans really got a turn around from how dark things seemed at the beginning of the year.

Indeed. Her For the Children line was her best line of dialogue in years. I'm very curious to see her interactions with Scott under Hickman. It's clear both characters are amongst his favourites so there is potential for him to recapture the dynamic that made them interesting (as a character pairing, not a couple).

I'm sure some people will choose to remain miserable though, despite the obvious bright future for her character.

[RachelGrey]

Indeed. Her For the Children line was her best line of dialogue in years. I'm very curious to see her interactions with Scott under Hickman. It's clear both characters are amongst his favourites so there is potential for him to recapture the dynamic that made them interesting (as a character pairing, not a couple).

I'm sure some people will choose to remain miserable though, despite the obvious bright future for her character.

I liked Emma and Scott as a couple, but everything after IvX kind of made me feel that writers were making Emma into one of those women who can't live without her man and making her crazy without her man. I hated that so much because Emma was a strong character all through Generation X without needing to be defined by having a boyfriend, and in the early days of New X-Men she was still a fairly strong character without needing to be about the guy in her life.

I feel like she could use a break from Scott, I feel Jean could use a break from Scott too actually. I feel like Jean and Emma need to grow as characters without needing to be defined by whatever relationship they are in at any given time.

[Omega Alpha]

I liked Emma and Scott as a couple, but everything after IvX kind of made me feel that writers were making Emma into one of those women who can't live without her man and making her crazy without her man.

That was because they wanted Cyclops to be Hitler, but fan backlash forced their hand, but rather than Marvel simply blame a villain like Maximus or The Shadow King, they put Emma in that role because someone there took personally that most fans sided with Scott and the X-men in AvX and wanted to force people to think otherwise.

Seems like Emma fans really got a turn around from how dark things seemed at the beginning of the year.

Like some of us said at the time, Rosenberg's run was designed as one last attempt for Marvel to force the narrative that Emma is a villain and Cyclops was evil and wrong in AvX and Schism because Hickman quite clearly doesn't think so.

[Punch Dimension.]

It must have been frustrating for JDW to cede to Hickman, because the current state of affairs seems far removed from JDW's ideal X-Men.

I mean, the guy said that he was Team Beast during Schism/AvX/Bendis. What sort of person could ever been Team Beast.

[Omega Alpha]

It must have been frustrating for JDW to cede to Hickman, because the current state of affairs seems far removed from JDW's ideal X-Men.

I mean, the guy said that he was Team Beast during Schism/AvX/Bendis. What sort of person could ever been Team Beast.

The kind of person that during Astonishing X-men tweeted that Emma was still a villain? Heh...

Mind you, this doesn't mean he's frustrated or anything by Hickman, specially with the books being as good as they are or seem to be now, just that he seems an illusion of change kind of guy, which of course is the rule in the big 2 management.

[MarvelMaster616]

From AIPT's Twitter livestream: - “She’s arguably the most powerful person on Krakoa.” - @JHickman on #EmmaFrost.

She controls distribution of the precious drugs that Krakoa produces. I don't think it's arguable.

[Gray Lensman]

That was because they wanted Cyclops to be Hitler, but fan backlash forced their hand, but rather than Marvel simply blame a villain like Maximus or The Shadow King, they put Emma in that role because someone there took personally that most fans sided with Scott and the X-men in AvX and wanted to force people to think otherwise.



Like some of us said at the time, Rosenberg's run was designed as one last attempt for Marvel to force the narrative that Emma is a villain and Cyclops was evil and wrong in AvX and Schism because Hickman quite clearly doesn't think so.

If they wanted me to think Scott and Emma were the villains of AvX they should have written the story better.

[PsychoEFrost]

If they wanted me to think Scott and Emma were the villains of AvX they should have written the story better.

I don't blame AvX as much as I blame the setup. When you have Jason Aaron making the Schism argument hilariously one-sided, but heavily relied upon to feed into the event, you're going to get bad results.