Yeah, you're overreacting.
I don't think so. The solicits have not been kind so far, and if that spoiled thread on Reddit is even half right, it is only going to get worse. Sorry I don't believe Marvel gave Hickman unilateral authority to simply contradict every writer of the last four years at will for the sake of his pet characters.
"This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot"
-Spider-man
“Evil is evil...lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same."
-Geralt of Rivia
Oh, come on, that is a typical solicit, lol. I can't count the amount of times advance solicits have teased 'will Emma break bad again??' since the Clinton administration. It means nothing, it never has. "The schemes of the White Queen?" Wow, spooky. How unlike Emma Frost to scheme behind people's back for her own aims/the greater good.
The fact is most of the modern generation of fans now know and accept or love Emma as a morally gray heroine/antiheroine. Morrison-onward and to a somewhat lesser extent Gen X popularized that. That is not going to change. She is not going to go back all the way to black any time soon. The time to do it if they'd wanted to would've been just post-Morrison during the Perfection arc in Whedon's Astonishing; that was the last time I was actually worried they would. It was a fakeout. It always will be. I don't understand why anyone actually gets worked up about these. I have a lot of favorite characters, Emma included, but surely we've all read comics long enough to not be snowed by solicits.
I think Emma has been poorly served by a number of creative teams in the 21st century, but overall we have a wildly different impression of the last 15 years. They have kept Emma central because they know she is popular as a key member of the X-Men, and that the pairing with Scott was also popular. There have been several bad stories for her (including very recently), but they are borne out of the company's belief that Emma is a morally fluid character who can handle dark and duplicitous stories. That's called taking her for granted. Some of the stories go too dark, but I don't feel I have seen "Emma hates her students" or "Emma is a coward" much. If you want to believe Jonathan Hickman is being told how to write Emma Frost, good luck with that but there are rarely those kind of conspiracies, IMO. It's often just laziness and incompetence, which has often typified the X-offices since Morrison. Until now, IMO.
Yeah, it definitely does not say that. And in fairness, it seems like you haven't seen a reason since 2004 and are approaching everything through that lens. That sounds exhausting.a leaked solicit which seemed credible is saying that she's one of the big bads of the Marauders book. I don't see a reason to be optimistic in the slightest.
I have put up with the crap Emma treatment she's gotten in the X-books for a long time. But IvX was the straw that broke the camel's back. Since then, her portrayal as a psychotic idiot has been nothing short of insulting to all Emma fans. Uncanny's Emma was the worst she has ever been portrayed ever, and I don't use that as hyperbole. She was incompetent enough to let her Hellfire Club get mooked easily, cowardly enough to sell out every mutant on the planet to save her own skin, and dumb enough to think any of her plans would actually accomplish anything other than make things worse. It was clear Rosenberg has nothing but contempt for Scott and Emma post-Schism.
Now we get a book where she's paired with three characters who hate her, and working with the guy she brutally beat to death in X-Men Black. So there is a LOT to be concerned about. I've never read anything by Hickman, so I don't have this love affair that people seem to have for his work. I think people are being hopeful that we'll actually get new stories, but I'm legit worried Emma is gonna be thrown under the bus again in the new status quo, which seems to heavily revolve around going back to the 1980s status.
I like the idea of Emma being away from the Marauders most of the time. It means they have to come to land sometime and vice versa. It also means that there may be more characters involved in Emma's side than just the initial cast, like Shaw.
I like Emma scheming and plotting lol she's not going to be a villain, she's part of the main roster. She will be having doing some work behind her teammates backs, and that's cool. Even in Whedon's Astonishing she was plotting and it was cool.
So have lots of us. And as for the Inhumans they're all but dead now and a laughing stock to the readership after the years-long failed push, while Emma Frost remains popular with the X-Men audience.
And Rosenberg is gone.Uncanny's Emma was the worst she has ever been portrayed ever, and I don't use that as hyperbole. She was incompetent enough to let her Hellfire Club get mooked easily, cowardly enough to sell out every mutant on the planet to save her own skin, and dumb enough to think any of her plans would actually accomplish anything other than make things worse. It was clear Rosenberg has nothing but contempt for Scott and Emma post-Schism.
Working with or playing? As she's done many times with many villains? As for X-Men who have issues with Emma Frost the line is probably half of Manhattan. That's part of the excitement that goes with the character, the tension and drama in that interplay and long history. She's been working with people who distrust or actively dislike her for over 20 years and has largely proven them wrong.Now we get a book where she's paired with three characters who hate her, and working with the guy she brutally beat to death in X-Men Black.
I have, that's why I have one. I remember the 80s status quo. This ain't it.I've never read anything by Hickman, so I don't have this love affair that people seem to have for his work.
Are you seriously have this OTT reaction because of a vague maybe legitimate solicit. Really? That's embarrassing. I understand over the last 2-3 few years Emma has been written poorly, but lets at least give Duggan & Hickman a chance before we throw our toys out of the pram.
And as for who has more sway, Hickman or JDW I'd give it to the former. JDW as we know likes his characters to be classic flavoured, i.e boyscout Cyclops, but given how Hickman has been writing him, he obviously sees him differently.
Emma being written as doing shady or underhanded things also comes part and parcel of the character. It makes me laugh when Emma fans complain about her being portrayed as less than good like they want her to be Jean or something. No, that's not why the character broke out and attempts to whitewash her history as helpless victim do a massive disservice to the character.
I find Emma endlessly more interesting than Jean and always have. There is a reason OG Jean stayed in the dirt as long as she did and a big part of that is Emma Frost.
In the dirt with the worms!!