Mr & Mrs X: Gambit and Rogue Appreciation 2019

[LegoLiz]

Rogue is not some damsel in distress. She has been in danger several times and Gambit didn't whine about it. He got to work like in Messiah Complex. I suppose one could argue he is more overprotective because they are married now but if this is the vision of Gambit going forward then it is going to get really annoying, really quick.

More to the point, Gambit basically is quite emasculated thus far. In issue one he says some stuff to Rogue and she basically tells him to shut up. He threatens Apocalypse and Apocalypse basically clowns him and here he tells everyone he is not in a joking mood and they pretty much continue to joke. No one takes anything he has to say seriously. He is the Rodney Dangerfield of Excalibur. Seems we traded Racky LeBeau during the Legacy run for Rodney LeBeau as dude gets no respect.

Hey Remydat,

I hear where you are coming from and am sharing the same fears. Not exactly loving the treatment of Gambit so far. Everything you say tracks true for me, but I am hoping it’s still early and that he’ll get more pages to be more in character for us. People here have made good arguments that it’s only been a few pages...but
funny you bring up Racky LeBeau because I was just thinking of that and thinking that it’s worse now for Rogue who is actually a footrest right now (“footrest Mrs. LeBeau”? - hmmm not as catchy). Here’s hoping things get better as their storyline progresses.

[Jumpyshark]

Thanks for sharing Couplest! Beautiful shot. But I’m crazy right? To me, it looks like Gambit (well more Gambit) and Rogue are cuddling a baby. It looks like a very round head in Remy’s arms? Reminds me of the Spiral soul? I’m the only one seeing this right? They would never leak this!

That's Rogue's shoulder.

Y'all are OBSSESSED!

[RD155]

Still a little annoyed that Rogue is most likely going to be sidelined for a bit. Hopefully Gambit is done a bit more justice this time around. The preview looks good and things will pick up this issue. Out of all the titles for DOX this is the one title out of all of them that I’m pulling for the most. The setting themes and atmosphere are fantastic. I wish the characters looked a bit
More mature but that’s just nitpicking at the art.

[LegoLiz]

That's Rogue's shoulder.

Y'all are OBSSESSED!

Hah! I must be obsessed. Shoulder? Pic looks even cuter thank you!

[remydat]

There is a time lapse between the end of the last issue and the events in the preview, but here are my assumptions, first regarding Gambit's concerns about Rogue:

In Krakoa live some of the most brilliant minds in the world so I would assume guys like Sinister and Beast checked on Rogue and had no idea what's going on with her, since it seems the best solution they could come up with was to get in a boat and travel to England for reasons (?) instead of keeping her in a hospital under medical observation. Honestly it would make no sense to get in a boat trip without consulting those guys first. So with that in mind, to me it makes perfect sense that Gambit is really worried about his wife, as a matter of fact in my opinion any other kind of behavior would make no sense.

To the second point, yeah I have to agree that he hasn't been treated with any kind of respect so far. His wife is in some weird unknown state and people keep making fun of the guy, it not only speaks badly about how Tini has treated him so far, but it also makes everyone else around him look like a morons, what kind of friends would act like that? I can understand one joke to try lift Remy's spirit up but the moment he says he is not in the mood for jokes everyone should have stopped and to continue after he said that is completely disrespectful.

I get what you are saying but still doesn't ring quite true to me. This was a guy who joined the marauders and seemingly betrayed the X-men to save Rogue. No fanfare, no whining. He did what had to be done. I just don't see him as some doting husband. If something is wrong with Rogue he is going to figure out who can help and he is going to put in the work to make it happen. Not pout. But I understand your point and it has some merit even if I personally disagree with it.

Bleeding Cool bringing up Gambits role in Excalibur:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/11...bur-2-preview/

Yeah pretty spot on.

Hey Remydat,

I hear where you are coming from and am sharing the same fears. Not exactly loving the treatment of Gambit so far. Everything you say tracks true for me, but I am hoping it’s still early and that he’ll get more pages to be more in character for us. People here have made good arguments that it’s only been a few pages...but
funny you bring up Racky LeBeau because I was just thinking of that and thinking that it’s worse now for Rogue who is actually a footrest right now (“footrest Mrs. LeBeau”? - hmmm not as catchy). Here’s hoping things get better as their storyline progresses.

At some point it would be nice to see Gambit just man up and stop taking **** from everyone but not holding my breath on that one. Yes it is early but nothing very promising thus far. Quite frankly, would prefer if he were in the coma instead of Rogue as at least then he wouldn't be the punchline.

[Couplest]

Eh, can always count on Bleeding Cool for clickbait.

So been watching XTAS on Disney+ with the kiddos this week and of course they love it and while it didn't age perfectly, dang there are some great beats in there still. Season 1 has some of the best Gambit and Rogue moments - Rogue terrifying Gambit with her driving, that subtle nod from Storm to Rogue when she says she probably knows Gambit best, the game of pool, Rogue basically staring Gambit down into the suicide mission but then freaking out when he's not emerging from the collapsing base only to kiss him (with her hand between) when he's alright. Yep, still not over loving this show faults and all.

And feeling more ready to ride out Excalibur and see where it goes.

Yes! We’ve only made it through the first two episodes but I love that the kids seem into it. Storm seems like an early favorite for my 4 year old and the 5 year old compared them to Pokémon which I guess would be compliment from him. I can’t wait to get to some of those all time great romy moments.

[AppleJ]

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Have you all SEEN this art by Stephen Candell?!

[AppleJ]

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Honestly my head is spinning thinking about his art style as a basis for a new animated series. Dare to dream, huh?

[Sandmans_Raven]

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Have you all SEEN this art by Stephen Candell?!

Love this! I follow him on instagram. He's done a few of the other X-Men but this one is definitely my favorite

[DearMachine]

I have revived, as if from a Krakoan egg.

I think I'm in the minority in that I enjoyed the first issue of Excalibur a lot. Admittedly, I love the Matter of Britain to the point where I got a Ph.D in medieval lit because of it, so I was always going to be an easy sell on this book. King Arthur x X-Men is my dream collab.

However, I agree with everyone in the thread that Gambit and Rogue were off. It felt like Howard was still getting a handle on all the characters who weren't the Braddocks. Romy had none of the sparkle and sass and sex that characterizes them. Emphasis on the sex, because . . . ugh, is Marvel really going to retcon that control thing again? Why wouldn't she even pack her bracelet if she has babies on the mind? Does she know how babies are made? Does Gambit need to teach a sex ed class just for Rogue?

Hopefully, Howard finds her footing with the other characters as she continues, because I loved the rest of the book, and want to love all of it.

Look at how emasculated Gambit is in that scan!!!! Why is HE the one turning his head all the way while Rogue just gingerly tilts her head??? Is Remy Lebeau not man enough to have Rogue turn her head for him? This is DEMENTED and MISANDRIST!!!!

Gambit showing off that superior neck flexibility, tho.

[AppleJ]

I have revived, as if from a Krakoan egg.

I think I'm in the minority in that I enjoyed the first issue of Excalibur a lot. Admittedly, I love the Matter of Britain to the point where I got a Ph.D in medieval lit because of it, so I was always going to be an easy sell on this book. King Arthur x X-Men is my dream collab.

However, I agree with everyone in the thread that Gambit and Rogue were off. It felt like Howard was still getting a handle on all the characters who weren't the Braddocks. Romy had none of the sparkle and sass and sex that characterizes them. Emphasis on the sex, because . . . ugh, is Marvel really going to retcon that control thing again? Why wouldn't she even pack her bracelet if she has babies on the mind? Does she know how babies are made? Does Gambit need to teach a sex ed class just for Rogue?

Hopefully, Howard finds her footing with the other characters as she continues, because I loved the rest of the book, and want to love all of it.



Gambit showing off that superior neck flexibility, tho.

OMG OMG OMG DearMachine!!!! I missed you so much!

[RD155]

Stupid question but has there been any confirmation that Gambit/Rogue are still married? I’m hoping that with all the chaos and craziness from HoX and so on that it wasn’t somehow casually retconned...I can’t seem to remember from mr and Mrs x but did they ever wear rings during that series ?

[RD155]

I have revived, as if from a Krakoan egg.

I think I'm in the minority in that I enjoyed the first issue of Excalibur a lot. Admittedly, I love the Matter of Britain to the point where I got a Ph.D in medieval lit because of it, so I was always going to be an easy sell on this book. King Arthur x X-Men is my dream collab.

However, I agree with everyone in the thread that Gambit and Rogue were off. It felt like Howard was still getting a handle on all the characters who weren't the Braddocks. Romy had none of the sparkle and sass and sex that characterizes them. Emphasis on the sex, because . . . ugh, is Marvel really going to retcon that control thing again? Why wouldn't she even pack her bracelet if she has babies on the mind? Does she know how babies are made? Does Gambit need to teach a sex ed class just for Rogue?

Hopefully, Howard finds her footing with the other characters as she continues, because I loved the rest of the book, and want to love all of it.



Gambit showing off that superior neck flexibility, tho.

Another thing that hurts this Version of Gambit/Rogue is that we are coming fresh off the heels of Mr and MrsX. They were written so well in that series and now I find myself comparing every single panel in Excalibur and so on to what I saw during that series. Might not be fair to Tini because I’m not sure if we will ever get that Gambit/Rogue chemistry nailed as perfectly as it was during mr and Mrs x. Hopefully I’m wrong and Tini can get into a rhythm writing them.

[DearMachine]

OMG OMG OMG DearMachine!!!! I missed you so much!

Aww, I missed you guys so much too. I have been parched for both Romy and for talking about Romy.

Stupid question but has there been any confirmation that Gambit/Rogue are still married? I’m hoping that with all the chaos and craziness from HoX and so on that it wasn’t somehow casually retconned...I can’t seem to remember from mr and Mrs x but did they ever wear rings during that series ?

Yes, rings were a minor plot point in Mr and Mrs X. Bling! made the rings for them. (Wow, I've been out of X-Men discourse for a while. I couldn't remember if Bling! had the exclamation mark.)

However, Gambit and Rogue were both drawn with them very inconsistently. I skimmed a few issues, and they didn't have them on in most panels. I also remembered how well Kelly Thompson wrote them, and became sad.

[mikeb]

I have revived, as if from a Krakoan egg.

I think I'm in the minority in that I enjoyed the first issue of Excalibur a lot. Admittedly, I love the Matter of Britain to the point where I got a Ph.D in medieval lit because of it, so I was always going to be an easy sell on this book. King Arthur x X-Men is my dream collab.

However, I agree with everyone in the thread that Gambit and Rogue were off. It felt like Howard was still getting a handle on all the characters who weren't the Braddocks. Romy had none of the sparkle and sass and sex that characterizes them. Emphasis on the sex, because . . . ugh, is Marvel really going to retcon that control thing again? Why wouldn't she even pack her bracelet if she has babies on the mind? Does she know how babies are made? Does Gambit need to teach a sex ed class just for Rogue?

Hopefully, Howard finds her footing with the other characters as she continues, because I loved the rest of the book, and want to love all of it.



Gambit showing off that superior neck flexibility, tho.

Strange as it seems, I'm feeling a sense of da java Vu all over again. 30 years ago, Rogue ends shoved into the Seige Perilous and ends up treading water for more than a year. In the meantime, the focus is shifted to the newly introduced Jubilee Lee, a new character named Gambit and the all-new and improved Ninja Psylocke.