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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruelrain View Post
    Didn't the current retcon stated that HoM reality warp was within her power/witchcraft, and that she was not amped?
    Not really, though some writers undoubtedly still think so. The closest anyone came to saying that was in Uncanny Avengers when she said she could do it again given a sufficiently large power source, and she used Wonder Man's ionic energy to do a mass teleportation spell. But that is based on the idea that she can't do something huge like that without being amped up from outside.

    The first time we saw Wanda really get amped like that was when she accidentally tapped into the DC universe's Chaos Magic in JLA/Avengers, which is why there's a fan theory that that was the Life Force. Of course it can never be canon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leokearon View Post
    Wanda was still amped by the Life-Force it wasn't until Childern's Crusade that she lost it
    I mean yep.

    That thing gets retconned back and forth, originally it was chaos magic of Chton, then it was retconned to be some kind of Life-Force entity, then it was retconned back into being Chton's chaos magic, and now the current retcon says it was her own witchcraft.

    So it was retconned and recent retcon says, that her power is just her own natural witchcraft potential she inherited from her true mother, as well as HE's genetic manipulation which made Wanda interact with mystical energies far better than any human, so by the current retcon everything she did during HoM was by her own power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurkle View Post
    Not really, though some writers undoubtedly still think so. The closest anyone came to saying that was in Uncanny Avengers when she said she could do it again given a sufficiently large power source, and she used Wonder Man's ionic energy to do a mass teleportation spell. But that is based on the idea that she can't do something huge like that without being amped up from outside.

    The first time we saw Wanda really get amped like that was when she accidentally tapped into the DC universe's Chaos Magic in JLA/Avengers, which is why there's a fan theory that that was the Life Force. Of course it can never be canon.
    You're also right but in Scarlet Witch issue 1, Wanda states that her witchcraft is not chaos magic, and say it is far from it, also she says people fear her because she has ill-used it in the past(HoM).

    And Scarlet With issue 9, the Civil War II tie-in, she states that she can do no more mutants and more so, even no more dying reality warp.

    In the issue, Quicksilver hints that Wanda could have stopped the entire Civil War II event if she wanted then she proceeds to explain why she doesn't do it, because her power affects her mental condition, the more potent power she uses the crazier she goes, even though she has gotten better regarding this problem, but still it's very risky to pull that kind of power
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximoffTrash View Post
    Well, they are going for rapid aging I guess? I wonder how Wanda will age. Or the boys randomly growing up is gonna play into the freakish nature of the "sitcom" part.
    What Conrad has claimed a couple of times is that different episodes will take place in different eras of TV, so the kids will be babies in the 50s/60s sitcom world and older kids in a 70s/80s episode. Some of that may be speculation on his part but it does make sense, as I don't expect they'll stay in one fantasy world for the whole series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruelrain View Post
    I mean yep.

    That thing gets retconned back and forth, originally it was chaos magic of Chton, then it was retconned to be some kind of Life-Force entity, then it was retconned back into being Chton's chaos magic, and now the current retcon says it was her own witchcraft.

    So it was retconned and recent retcon says, that her power is just her own natural witchcraft potential she inherited from her true mother, as well as HE's genetic manipulation which made Wanda interact with mystical energies far better than any human, so by the current retcon everything she did during HoM was by her own power.
    Chaos Magic isn't the energy source, think it as an engine.
    Even in the series where it's introduced (Kurt Busiek's Avengers run) , Wanda needed outer energy source to pull off great feats.
    So Chaos Magic doesn't contradict with some of the latter explanation.
    There isn't anything specific that suggest HoM or any mass warping she did is due to Witchcraft. There is a line in her solo that read like she can only do Witchcraft now but that's pretty much it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruelrain View Post
    I mean yep.

    That thing gets retconned back and forth, originally it was chaos magic of Chton, then it was retconned to be some kind of Life-Force entity, then it was retconned back into being Chton's chaos magic, and now the current retcon says it was her own witchcraft.

    So it was retconned and recent retcon says, that her power is just her own natural witchcraft potential she inherited from her true mother, as well as HE's genetic manipulation which made Wanda interact with mystical energies far better than any human, so by the current retcon everything she did during HoM was by her own power.
    Nope, HE experiment replaced her mutant power.
    Natalya retcon only added to her already-existing Witchcraft power set. (Which didn't change much.)
    Yes, technically the feats she pulled is by her own power, but that power include “drawing energy from a large energy source.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruelrain View Post
    You're also right but in Scarlet Witch issue 1, Wanda states that her witchcraft is not chaos magic, and say it is far from it, also she says people fear her because she has ill-used it in the past(HoM).

    And Scarlet With issue 9, the Civil War II tie-in, she states that she can do no more mutants and more so, even no more dying reality warp.

    In the issue, Quicksilver hints that Wanda could have stopped the entire Civil War II event if she wanted then she proceeds to explain why she doesn't do it, because her power affects her mental condition, the more potent power she uses the crazier she goes, even though she has gotten better regarding this problem, but still it's very risky to pull that kind of power
    The CWII tie-in is more about Wanda thinking her no-moreing stuff won't have any actual meaning, not that she can randomly do it as she liked.
    Pietro didn't really have much idea about magic or Wanda's power for that matter.
    Also the most recent example is her defeating the challenger using the energy from the shared will and history of Avengers, very much like how she defeated Morgan Le Fay back when Chaos Magic was introduced. She cannot one-shot a big villain without any juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruelrain View Post
    I mean yep.

    That thing gets retconned back and forth, originally it was chaos magic of Chton, then it was retconned to be some kind of Life-Force entity, then it was retconned back into being Chton's chaos magic, and now the current retcon says it was her own witchcraft.

    So it was retconned and recent retcon says, that her power is just her own natural witchcraft potential she inherited from her true mother, as well as HE's genetic manipulation which made Wanda interact with mystical energies far better than any human, so by the current retcon everything she did during HoM was by her own power.
    Life force was not a retcon. It was simply a power she was tapping into using chaos magic. Chaos magic enables her conduit abilities. Her book focused on her witchcraft, which has been there since Agatha came into her life. But that's separate from chaos magic. When Marvel was asked about her abilities, they said chaos magic is still there. So her powers are still chaos magic + witchcraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gurkle View Post
    One of the many reasons Wanda needs a big retcon-heavy "Avengers Forever" type story is someone needs to explain what "The Life Force" even was. No one ever mentioned it before or since, so it's a bit hard to know how it fits into her history.
    It's been used before in other stories unrelated to Wanda. It was basically the force that helped create the universe. It's all elder god stuff.
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    An upcoming figure from S.H. Figuarts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchfan View Post
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    wow that really looks like Olsen!

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    Sadly this is just a behind the scenes photo released by the official Twitter for Elizabeth Olsen's show "Sorry For Your Loss." The show is too serious to do a shout-out like that.

    Olsen is really good in the show, unfortunately it's on a Facebook streaming service that nobody watches, so she hasn't gotten an Emmy nomination or anything else for it. I hope "WandaVision" turns out good because she is a much better actress than the material she's had in the MCU so far.


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    I hope she brings her talent into WandaVision more, hopefully the writers can give her more material to work with without getting into the rabbit hole everyone has PTSD for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurkle View Post
    Sadly this is just a behind the scenes photo released by the official Twitter for Elizabeth Olsen's show "Sorry For Your Loss." The show is too serious to do a shout-out like that.

    Olsen is really good in the show, unfortunately it's on a Facebook streaming service that nobody watches, so she hasn't gotten an Emmy nomination or anything else for it. I hope "WandaVision" turns out good because she is a much better actress than the material she's had in the MCU so far.

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    EDIT: Ignore what I said below, I apparently cannot read.

    Still seems like no Wanda in February solicits except the “Tarot” flashback mini. She’s not in the “Force Works” revival mini of course.

    I don’t get why she is MIA for so long (close to a year) but I am almost afraid to find out what they’re saving her for.
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