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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Are we sure she didn't have an affair with Jesse Alexander instead? The resemblance between Franklin and Sam is uncanny.

    On a serious note, I really don't like how Sue was portrayed in Grand Design. She honestly felt so cold and emotionally distant the entire time which annoys the hell out of me.
    Actually right now Frank looks EXACTLY like a little namor which erks me.

    And agreed. Sue's portrayal has her as someone who legit doesn't want to be there and never did. It's not 616 Sue for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhyperion View Post
    Actually right now Frank looks EXACTLY like a little namor which erks me.

    Now that you say it, I'm starting to see it. No wonder my blood pressure is going up.

    Quote Originally Posted by markhyperion View Post
    And agreed. Sue's portrayal has her as someone who legit doesn't want to be there and never did. It's not 616 Sue for sure
    It's more insulting because the FF break up because Reed does something stupid (coma ray, Civil War)

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    From what I understand Grand Design wasn't ment to be in-continuity.

    Its an nice alter-timeline based on the Kirby and Byrne run but with big differences especially in the end and it shows that since it gave a definite end to the timeline.

    BUT considering how time-travel works in the MU, then this could be the timeline that spawned the 616. Franklin going back in time could have created a new timeline that became 616, hence why it continues in FF# 5.

    I liked it for what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    Fantastic Four: Negative Zone - A nice little story about Reed as a scientist and how he handles some things. The Fantastix back-up story made me think that they have potential as a full on comedy team. Like the "Great Lake Avengers" version of the FF
    I actually loved this issue. Just read it today. I highly recommend it. Short, concise, tight storyline with the grand scope of Negative Zone in background. Loved the writing, design, and everything. Reed actually looked...well...Cool for once.

    I don't dislike Slotts stories or look for the FF, but I wouldn't hate the person who wrote this taking over someday.

    They even seemed like a team for once.

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    Mike Carey wrote a run of Ultimate Fantastic Four.

    I only realized yesterday that Negative Zone and FF: Scourge were not the same comic and my soul left my body.
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    Can't defeat Her, so instead I'll have to be Her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    Ooh! My avatar <3

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    so at the age Franklin is now, is he trying to go on dates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man_of_Tomorrow View Post
    From what I understand Grand Design wasn't ment to be in-continuity.

    Its an nice alter-timeline based on the Kirby and Byrne run but with big differences especially in the end and it shows that since it gave a definite end to the timeline.

    BUT considering how time-travel works in the MU, then this could be the timeline that spawned the 616. Franklin going back in time could have created a new timeline that became 616, hence why it continues in FF# 5.

    I liked it for what it was.
    Once we got to the second issue, it was obviously not a 616 story. I think trying to tie this into our FF might be fun for some people. But honestly, there's not much to this Grand Design story but a fan fic adventure with a lot of disconnected ideas as some have said. After taking a look at this, I realized I may have wasted money on buying this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyle View Post
    so at the age Franklin is now, is he trying to go on dates?
    I doubt he would. He probably considers himself above other people and is madly in love with his own image in the mirror. In fact, I doubt he could date anyone that wasn't his perfect reflection.

    Except maybe Sam Alexander, considering their resemblance.



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    Woah, they're even dressed alike in those panels!

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCleghorn View Post
    Once we got to the second issue, it was obviously not a 616 story. I think trying to tie this into our FF might be fun for some people. But honestly, there's not much to this Grand Design story but a fan fic adventure with a lot of disconnected ideas as some have said. After taking a look at this, I realized I may have wasted money on buying this.
    Then it shouldn't have been called Grand Design. X-Men: Grand Design was a retelling of 616 stuff, and so people expected FF: Grand Design to be the same.
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    A look back at the Marvel Action Hour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    New FF Thanksgiving art. Nice .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    Who’s the artist for this piece? I’m really loving his take on the FF. And UGH. I just heard Future Foundation has been cancelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcat View Post
    Who’s the artist for this piece? I’m really loving his take on the FF. And UGH. I just heard Future Foundation has been cancelled.
    I believe Mike McKone did this for last year's Thanksgiving.
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