The First Family of Marvel: The Fantastic Four Appreciation 2019

[phantom1592]

ISSUE #1 – KRAKOA. Every mutant on Earth lives there … except for one. But now it’s time for FRANKLIN RICHARDS to come home.
It’s the X-MEN VS. the FANTASTIC FOUR and nothing will ever be the same.

Sigh...

EVERY mutant on earth can't live there... Someone... somewhere doesn't want to live there. Some kid who doesn't want to abandon their family. Somebody who refuses to live with magneto and apocalypse... SOMEONE else pretty much just like Franklin who may go there some day... but since he looks and acts 100% human doesn't feel the need to rush of to sanctuary. That's just... bad writing.

[phantom1592]

As for Iceman's FF stint, Luke's run was awfully short itself and no one seems to mind that. The fact it occurred in actual issues helps, but from the characters' points of view, a single adventure and some bizarre technicality works for me.

Especially when you see shots of Ghost Rider, Hulk and wolverine hanging around... that whole 'New fantastic Four' absolutely shouldn't count. None of the actual members ever endorsed that group.

[Lukmendes]

"Next year" is 2019 (since this was published LAST YEAR), and we just got the February 2020 solicits. Looks like they were hoping we'd forget...

So I guess Johnny was right about it not being canon after all

Sigh...

EVERY mutant on earth can't live there... Someone... somewhere doesn't want to live there. Some kid who doesn't want to abandon their family. Somebody who refuses to live with magneto and apocalypse... SOMEONE else pretty much just like Franklin who may go there some day... but since he looks and acts 100% human doesn't feel the need to rush of to sanctuary. That's just... bad writing.

Eh, typical comic book exaggeration, like whenever they say "Nothing will ever be the same again!".

But yeah, the idea of the conflict is stupid, Franklyn just has no reason to give a damn about X-Men or Krakoa, you can also argue that neither should every mutant ever, since so far they're pretty black and white about this (Krakoa is a super paradise, rest of the world is hell!), but hey, whatever.

[CaptCleghorn]

Sigh...

EVERY mutant on earth can't live there... Someone... somewhere doesn't want to live there. Some kid who doesn't want to abandon their family. Somebody who refuses to live with magneto and apocalypse... SOMEONE else pretty much just like Franklin who may go there some day... but since he looks and acts 100% human doesn't feel the need to rush of to sanctuary. That's just... bad writing.

Artie and Leech feel unloved.

[phantom1592]

Eh, typical comic book exaggeration, like whenever they say "Nothing will ever be the same again!".

But yeah, the idea of the conflict is stupid, Franklyn just has no reason to give a damn about X-Men or Krakoa, you can also argue that neither should every mutant ever, since so far they're pretty black and white about this (Krakoa is a super paradise, rest of the world is hell!), but hey, whatever.

Frankly I hate even considering Franklin a 'mutant'. He was born with his powers... and back then that's all 'mutant' meant. Something different that made you that way from birth. But he was born of two cosmically powered altered humans... He shouldn't be lumped in with the whole 'X-gene' 'homo-superior' group. He's something.... Else. Feel the same way about Namor. Mutants are an offshoot of humanity... and Namor is a cross breed between Human and Atlantean... He's something 'else' but he doesn't qualify as a 'mutant'. You aren't going to slap inhibitor bands on these guys and make them 'human'... their powers are something 'different'.

[Lukmendes]

Frankly I hate even considering Franklin a 'mutant'. He was born with his powers... and back then that's all 'mutant' meant. Something different that made you that way from birth. But he was born of two cosmically powered altered humans... He shouldn't be lumped in with the whole 'X-gene' 'homo-superior' group. He's something.... Else. Feel the same way about Namor. Mutants are an offshoot of humanity... and Namor is a cross breed between Human and Atlantean... He's something 'else' but he doesn't qualify as a 'mutant'. You aren't going to slap inhibitor bands on these guys and make them 'human'... their powers are something 'different'.

Well, now being a mutant just means you have the X-gene, which both Franklin and Namor have, so they qualify.

[CaptCleghorn]

Frankly I hate even considering Franklin a 'mutant'. He was born with his powers... and back then that's all 'mutant' meant. Something different that made you that way from birth. But he was born of two cosmically powered altered humans... He shouldn't be lumped in with the whole 'X-gene' 'homo-superior' group. He's something.... Else. Feel the same way about Namor. Mutants are an offshoot of humanity... and Namor is a cross breed between Human and Atlantean... He's something 'else' but he doesn't qualify as a 'mutant'. You aren't going to slap inhibitor bands on these guys and make them 'human'... their powers are something 'different'.

Didn't some mutant origins include parents who dealt with radiation and atomic science? I seem to recall the old Origins back-ups in silver age X-Men mentioning this.

[Sutekh]

Didn't some mutant origins include parents who dealt with radiation and atomic science? I seem to recall the old Origins back-ups in silver age X-Men mentioning this.

The Beast / Henry McCoy, IIRC, was supposed to have been recognized as a mutant at birth because of his large hands and feet, and it was blamed on his father working at a nuclear power plant. (Which always seemed a bit odd. There didn't need to be a 'blame' for why Jean, Warren, Bobby or Scott were mutants, and, in most of those cases, they didn't seem to be so from birth, but 'grew into it' at puberty.)

[Digifiend]

Usually, if you inherit the exact same powers as your parents - like Spider-Woman's son Gerry Drew, MC2 Spider-Girl, or the Dani Cage Captain America - then you're a mutate. Which is also what anyone who gets their powers from accidents (i.e. Hulk, Spider-Man, F4) are. But if your powers are different, as in Franklin's case, then it's a mutation, and you're a mutant.

[The BaRoN]

FF 2099 was pretty good

Picked up the Ron Lim and Ramos variants for it as well

The whole 2099 event has been great so far with some interesting recons to the original 90s line.

[Electricmastro]

One of the earlier DC comics to reference the Fantastic Four (The Inferior Five #10, October 1968).

[Lukmendes]

One of the earlier DC comics to reference the Fantastic Four (The Inferior Five #10, October 1968).

Not-Johnny with a dad bod I see

[Electricmastro]

Not-Johnny with a dad bod I see

Ah, you mean the Matchstick Kid?

[Digifiend]

An advert on a story page? I wonder how trades and digital releases would handle that, since ads are usually cut from those?

As for 2099, ouch, that ending. One thing confused me, why does HERBIE, who is older than Valeria, call her Mother?

[Shadowcat]

So out of the loop. Is Sean Izaakse the new ongoing artist?