Black Panther Appreciation 2019

[Cville]

with War of the Realms, what monsters are invading the African continent, and what is the Panther and other diaspora heroes doing about it?

Try this question in the War of the Realms thread. There is a map saying which one of Malykiths'(sp) allies get Africa, but I cant remember what it said.

[KingNomarch]

[KingNomarch]

[MindofShadow]

Lol shes a pure telepath now?

K

[Klaue's Mixtape]

Wakandan characters (BP, Okoye, Shuri, M'baku) were not off at all.

T'challa got 3 minutes, Okoye got 3 minutes, M'baku got like 45 seconds, and Shuri got like 60 seconds.

In that tiny amount of time, their characterizations were fine. T'challa was the noble confident king. Okoye was the sass queen, and Shuri was the dickhead way too smart teenager. M'baku barked lol. They were all perfectly in character.


Copying over random Tumblr quotes is even worse than random twitter.

Russo's TWS + CW + IW >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nolan's BB + TDK + TDKR

Mind...I know I'm capable of throwing **** against the wall with some of my posts and you'd skillfully give a fatality to my post.

But this aint it chief.

M'Baku, Okoye and Shuri seemed completely different from what we were use to just a few months prior.

In fairness to the Russos they hadn't seen Black Panther when making Infinity War. The Russos get a lot of credit for improving/better version of characters (T'Challa is one people love to brag about in that regard)

However nothing about Wakanda or its characters felt as real as in Black Panther.

That final battle was more exciting, but I felt nothing until the snap.

[Cville]

Lol shes a pure telepath now?

K

Bast is inside her so I guess that is a power up. This is some of the best story writing he has done for the arc though. Wait and see if it last the whole issue. lol.

This artist seems close to John Romita Jrs' style

[Ezyo1000]

These are some really good point actually, even if these battles always operate on the rule of cool rather than actual practically.

Obviously the Russos had a stuffed movie to do so much, and they didn't really want to (or have the time to) really show the might of the Wakandan military. The air force should have been more prominent, turrets, Panther's Teeth and Prowlers should have been whipped out and a straightforward charge shouldn't have been used immediately (as cool as that running shot of BP and Cap was).

Like the video said, T'Challa should have withdrawn most of his troops to the city to defend it efficiently while others kept the Outriders busy...but that would have changed the entire movie and story. More time would have been spent in Wakanda and that didn't seem to be the structure the Russos had in mind. Which is unfortunate because the entire battle would have had more tension.

The video also talks about antique weapons and while I think the Wakandan weapons are bit underrated (or haven't been shown well enough against non Wakandan weapons) I think it's kinda was Coogler's point for them to be ancient. He wanted that tradition vs progress thing going on throughout his movie, and he does use it as an opportunity to critique Wakanda a little. But also the Wakandan weapons are meant to look like they can't do damage but they do. Remember, Killmonger stated a sonic spear could take out a tank. Infinity War dropped the ball showing how capable their simple weapons look.

But anyway, I think perhaps the sequel (or a later film) could see T'Challa overhauling the Wakandan military a little. On one hand, I don't want this change to look more Western, say with typical rifles or blasters. I want Wakandan tech and weaponry to continue to look different from the norm while clearly being advanced. I'm not too sure how to do that but I hope that's something Coogler and Bleacher (if she hopefully remains) can pull off.

It goes back to how no one knew how big BP was going to be so they didn't have T'Challa or Wakanda do much but provide an army to fight Thanos army. If they committed more time like they stated they wished they did, o think we would of seen a mightier Wakanda.

[Ezyo1000]

Bet money Coates is going to give her the Nakia treatment. Make you think she is going to be important or have some meaningful development then she is going to be relagated to background status

[Blind Wedjat]

It goes back to how no one knew how big BP was going to be so they didn't have T'Challa or Wakanda do much but provide an army to fight Thanos army. If they committed more time like they stated they wished they did, o think we would of seen a mightier Wakanda.

Yea, and I think like the video suggested the battle could have taken place in the city instead of the border. We should have gotten:

- T'Challa and Cap leading/discussing strategy/morality and protecting Vision with Natasha and Okoye in second in command

- Shuri and Banner discussing tech/science stuff and working on Vision

- More of Vision and Wanda to developed their rushed relationship

- War Machine, Falcon and Bucky patrolling the city with the Dora Milaje.

- Proxima, Corvus and a squad of Outriders that have infiltrated the city.

Would have given everyone more screentime and made the battle feel less rushed. But clearly there was no time/effort/resources to dedicate to this.

Lol shes a pure telepath now?

K

Wait, why is she a little girl now?

[Cville]

Im happy with the way they did it. I didnt want the Golden City looking like New York after the Chitari invasion. Replant some grass have some more babies is all that needed to happen after Infinity War. lol

[XPac]

Yea, and I think like the video suggested the battle could have taken place in the city instead of the border. We should have gotten:

- T'Challa and Cap leading/discussing strategy/morality and protecting Vision with Natasha and Okoye in second in command

- Shuri and Banner discussing tech/science stuff and working on Vision

- More of Vision and Wanda to developed their rushed relationship

- War Machine, Falcon and Bucky patrolling the city with the Dora Milaje.

- Proxima, Corvus and a squad of Outriders that have infiltrated the city.

Would have given everyone more screentime and made the battle feel less rushed. But clearly there was no time/effort/resources to dedicate to this.



Wait, why is she a little girl now?

I actually liked that the battle didn't take place in the city. They took the precautions to ensure that the potential casualties and the colateral damage was kept to a minimun. In that short scene, T'Challa demonstrated how good a king and strategist he was.

[Cville]

Other Wakandan news. West Coast Avengers is finished. No further information on the new WK siblings. So going to fan fic it and say their mother failed to protect T'chakas' second cousin on an overseas trip. She pulled a "Raid" style attack of an apartment complex to avenge him. When she got home she was going to be exiled from the Dora Milaje, but chose to exile herself before they could had down the sentence, taking some of Nyamis' Vb weapons tech with her. She meets a fisherman in California. Gets pregnant. He dies at sea.

[Frontier]

I miss old, crazy, Achebe...

[Jabare]

none of this better make it into the MCU

[nj06]

How many Wakandan warriors were present when they fought Thanos' army? If i recall correctly T'Challa had the Dora Milaje, the Border Tribe, and the Jabari; but do we know how many actually warriors were present? There didn't look to be too many.