Black Panther Appreciation 2019

[MindofShadow]

Black Panther cleaning up at the NAACP Image awards.

Panthers Quest didnt win. Lost to "Doc Mcstuffins". Anybody with children know what it is?

Cartoon where the young black daughter of a doctor has a special stethescope that makes toys come alive and she treats there various ailments (broken toys).

It has been around for awhile. Stunned it won an award over something new.

[Jabare]

Chadwick just won!

[MindofShadow]

I was told award season was over!!


back to the editing room... damn it!

[MouserGrey]

Pantherjack showed very well what a cunning warrior with tech can do with Thor and Iron Man. Coogler can crib a little if he wants.

[Ezyo1000]

Pantherjack showed very well what a cunning warrior with tech can do with Thor and Iron Man. Coogler can crib a little if he wants.

Exactly. At no point during the series did you ever think "Wow BP has all this tech that makes him OP! He is too reliant on it!"

Redjacks got it right, Coogler got it right, priest, Hudlin, liss, and narcisse got it right. Yet because Coates can't do it then the issue is obviously Tchalla having the tech because it's overshadowing abilities???

[Ezyo1000]

Shame thst Pantherjack didn't win but still a damn good show. Worthy to be I there with EMH and Hudlin's OG BP Mini series

[XPac]

Pantherjack showed very well what a cunning warrior with tech can do with Thor and Iron Man. Coogler can crib a little if he wants.

Certainy if he's fighting Thor, he needs every bit of tech he can get. If more members of BP's rogues gallery were Thor level, I'd pretty much toss fighting hand to hand out the window.

Ultimately the gear and power level of the hero should reflect the level of threat his rogues gallery presents. The nice thing about the cartoon is that T'Challa was presented with threats which at times were bigger and more powerful than him (something comics in general should take a page from). Villains who were legitimate threats. We definately need more of that in the comics.

[Rumble]

I know! It's like good writing actually MEANS something!

Heheh

Of all the times T'Challa has had his integrity, character, or abilities diminished by comic writers or creators, I've never seen it happen as a result of "too much tech."

I've seen writers disrespect and diminish him because he had too little tech, like the kkk kicking his butt or Doom blowing him up at the end of Hudlin's run... T'Challa sure could've benefited from a gamma-bomb tanking force-field or Hickman's teleportation tech there, bc clearly "black tarzan in tights" BP didn't come with the necessary 'cerebral' intangibles to compensate...

Conversely, of all the nitpicks i have with Hickman's run, I never felt "mann that scene where he appears behind black swan in her cage to put the explosive necklace on her really diminishes his ability to stealth naturally in front of ppl". The heffa was in an unnatural transparent energy cube! Plus BP cheats anyway with his soundless jesus boots.

I never felt "man, that force-field BP used to block Thor's lightning in the cartoon really diminishes BP's ability to dodge". I've seen the muthafucka dodge enough times, i don't doubt his aptitude in a game of dodge ball.

"Mann that teleportation stuff he did to save the wakandan about to be executed by black swan's goons from a 1000 yards away in a split second really diminished BP's non-existent ability to quicksilver a 1000 yards in a split second." Well, the muthafucka died 2 seconds later anyway, so i guess it was destined.

I see the too much tech stuff akin to the boogey man who lived under our beds as kids. BP being punked by writers has always been the REAL monster lurking in the shadows. Whether he needs to have a lightsaber is nothing about diminishing BP and more about how many toy sales would a vibranium light saber generate at the Disney store.

[Rumble]

Coates and his infamous Goon Slam Gary moment is probably the closest... but really, his season 1 BP was inherently incompetent across the board, and in far more egregious ways

[Ezyo1000]

Heheh

Of all the times T'Challa has had his integrity, character, or abilities diminished by comic writers or creators, I've never seen it happen as a result of "too much tech."

I've seen writers disrespect and diminish him because he had too little tech, like the kkk kicking his butt or Doom blowing him up at the end of Hudlin's run... T'Challa sure could've benefited from a gamma-bomb tanking force-field or Hickman's teleportation tech there, bc clearly "black tarzan in tights" BP didn't come with the necessary 'cerebral' intangibles to compensate...

Conversely, of all the nitpicks i have with Hickman's run, I never felt "mann that scene where he appears behind black swan in her cage to put the explosive necklace on her really diminishes his ability to stealth naturally in front of ppl". The heffa was in an unnatural transparent energy cube! Plus BP cheats anyway with his soundless jesus boots.

I never felt "man, that force-field BP used to block Thor's lightning in the cartoon really diminishes BP's ability to dodge". I've seen the muthafucka dodge enough times, i don't doubt his aptitude in a game of dodge ball.

"Mann that teleportation stuff he did to save the wakandan about to be executed by black swan's goons from a 1000 yards away in a split second really diminished BP's non-existent ability to quicksilver a 1000 yards in a split second." Well, the muthafucka died 2 seconds later anyway, so i guess it was destined.

I see the too much tech stuff akin to the boogey man who lived under our beds as kids. BP being punked by writers has always been the REAL monster lurking in the shadows. Whether he needs to have a lightsaber is nothing about diminishing BP and more about how many toy sales would a vibranium light saber generate at the Disney store.

To be fair to Hudlin, he did have every intention of setting the score right with BP and Doom had he been allowed to stay instead of Mayberrys Doom Fanboy fest. Though in the world tour arc I would of preferred it if BP and Doom ended their encounter in a draw and him not needing Storm to intervene.

Frankly when they fight, Doom should get worked H2h before he falls back to magic to even the odds. Once they are back in equal footing they start using tech snd that's where T'Challa starts to pull ahead Again and beat Doom.

Otherwise I agree. I don't care if he whips out tech so long as it makes sense and compliments his fighting
Even Hickman who cramp tech on him to the max, still had him using it with his natural fighting ability. People can complain about it when it happens like Coates does it, or if they gave him a gun and he just stood back and shot people and acted like he forgot how to fight when they got in close.

Even Coates run will be forgotten and people will only remember the force push and not care about the rest

[Klaue's Mixtape]

you gotta finsih the gif!!

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That sequence is cool AF lol


Re BD in IW: My lord you can tell they through that shit in last minute lol

Concept is amazing. Just a tad too rubbery. I think that has to do with Marvel liking flat ass lighting as well.

Notice the contrast between T'Challa in that GIF compared to Black Dwarf gif. He looks more solid.

Russo's photography isn't nearly as creative (guess they were saving it for Thor's entrance), but it doesn't look like a CG model.

I want not only the GOAT superhero movie, but GOAT action movie. It can be done! C'mon BP2!!!

[Klaue's Mixtape]

Dark Phoenix's Alexandra Shipp Doesn't Think 'Storm Needs T'Challa' https://buff.ly/2uDVuNA #DarkPhoenix #BlackPanther

[Dariel81]

No! No, I don’t think Storm needs T’Challa, and I think she needs her own movie! It doesn’t have to be me, it just needs to be made. A woman does not need a man in order to give her validity and she has also been around longer than him.”

I swear she Irks me

[Jabare]

Yes keep them apart. Seperate Universes

[Killerbee911]

The problem isn't versatility, so much as it's the tech replacing him actually fightning things. It's only a problem if it's a problem. If Superman replaced punching stuff with heat ray vision, I'd probably make the same arguement. Energy attacks is a part of his game, but it shouldn't overshadow his strength. In T'Challa's case the tech can enhance his stills, it just shouldn't replace the need for them.

Here the question that needs to be asked what if the more reliant on tech version of character is better? What if the Superman who use his heat vision more is better?. The big point is they are things that get better when you move away from what it is supposed to "traditional" be. Now I am not suggestion a drastic change nor do I think Marvel is going to move Black Panther far out of box is currently in but I hate fear of progressing characters in shared universe. It is why you have Hawkeye and Black Widow running around in spandex and BP and Iron Man with nano tech armor. If you put universal consistent rules fine stick character in one space and leave them BUT you have the most technological advance nation and the smartest man in that nation and one of the smartest men in the world. Yet people running around with better tech than him and character occasion uses better tech only to mysteriously forget he has them just to keep him as Captain america level character .I would like to pass on that thinking give me the over power tech God Black Panther.

I can live with the Superman version Black Panther where most fights he wins it is pre gone conclusion that he will win and it is just a matter of how he decides to win is the interesting part. Quite honestly Black panther suit is better Kryptonite than Kryptonite because being damage easily lowers him back to "normal" BP where he would just have to use his intelligence and fighting skills to win. "The problem" you are talking about is as simple Hulk,Thor and Sentry level opponents now being his primary competition and also fighting against Dr Doom, Kang, Ultron, Annihilus level villains. If that is problem I am fine with Black Panther can also work as extreme power fantasy too.

Me personally I see Black Panther as the ultimate swiss army knife character he has near the best tech, He is near the best fighter and he also has sort of esoteric stuff like shadow physics, king of dead and spear of bashenga. So he is a triple threat and best prepared hero to fight any kind of threat. That is black panther niche to me ,Dr Strange in situation where he can't use Magic is near useless, Captain America is situation where he has to use pure intelligence is near useless, Tony Stark in a situation where he has to physical fight is near useless. Everyone those situations Black Panther excels that is why the character is OP. They shouldn't be afraid to upgrade anything for him because you can always take away his suit( or limit its functions) if you need to real focus on his other areas. It is creativity of writer you can write him with no suit,fighting skills and intelligence(See Prodigy great book), You can write with him no suit,fighting skills and esoteric stuff( See Peter canon also surprisingly a good book), You can write him with a tech suit and fighting skills( See Deathstroke), Every approach would be interesting I don't think there should be too much of a worry of BP to go to far in one direction. I think they realize his flexibility is his strength.