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    Quote Originally Posted by Beware Of Geek View Post
    Nah, but moviegoers LOVE their third act slugfests.
    Off top of my head, I think most MCU movies have 4 action sequences minimum, with the last one being quite long.

    BP had 5 (nigeria, tribal 1, korea, tribal 2, last act).

    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    We got an idea going on the HEF that the final confrontation should be a mental challenge like a board game on something.
    so like RDJ Holmes vs Moriarty... which is one of my favorite movie endings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    I agree, slugfests are fun but honestly I think, like the first movie, having less but more important and meaningful set pieces make you appreciate them more given the care put into them. I dunno if BP vs M'Baku is what I want to see though to be honest, I like where M'Baku is at, especially with W'kabi no longer ballin with T'Challa, he needs homies. Plus I really don't want to see another civil waresque plot again. Wakanda should stabilize. Iwe should see a fully powered Wakanda in all it's greatness SWaD Wakanda
    I thought I was the only one who felt this way, the bolded. The only other black man on the scene and people want him to be the villain? No, I like him where he is just as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Off top of my head, I think most MCU movies have 4 action sequences minimum, with the last one being quite long.

    BP had 5 (nigeria, tribal 1, korea, tribal 2, last act).



    so like RDJ Holmes vs Moriarty... which is one of my favorite movie endings
    I've remember seeing the movie, but dont recall the scene. My suggestion was to tie the game to high tech weapons so if Tchalla wins nothing happens, but if Achebe wins, they launch. If would take place after a gauntlet of fighting villains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I've remember seeing the movie, but dont recall the scene. My suggestion was to tie the game to high tech weapons so if Tchalla wins nothing happens, but if Achebe wins, they launch. If would take place after a gauntlet of fighting villains.
    That was my exact idea. Which is why I think the whole thing works by not having Achebe be a physical threat but a mental challenge T'Challa has no choice but to play his game AND WIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    I dunno if BP vs M'Baku is what I want to see though to be honest, I like where M'Baku is at, especially with W'kabi no longer ballin with T'Challa, he needs homies. Plus I really don't want to see another civil waresque plot again. Wakanda should stabilize. Iwe should see a fully powered Wakanda in all it's greatness SWaD Wakanda
    Admittedly this is the only reason why I wouldn't want it. It's just that I think I have a really good idea in my head lol. I think it's ripe for those meaningful set pieces and deeper meanings. And it might not all have to be about fighting and unrest in Wakanda.

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    You can also take some inspiration from a film like Casino Royale, where winning a game means something for the plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    I agree, slugfests are fun but honestly I think, like the first movie, having less but more important and meaningful set pieces make you appreciate them more given the care put into them. I dunno if BP vs M'Baku is what I want to see though to be honest, I like where M'Baku is at, especially with W'kabi no longer ballin with T'Challa, he needs homies. Plus I really don't want to see another civil waresque plot again. Wakanda should stabilize. Iwe should see a fully powered Wakanda in all it's greatness SWaD Wakanda
    I wouldnt mind it M'baku gets mind controlled and they have to fight. But the Tchalla reminds of his responsibility to his people to save him.

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    Have you guys seen No Game No Life? Victories are built around playing games. Lots of fan service and can get creepy at parts, but still really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Grey View Post
    I thought I was the only one who felt this way, the bolded. The only other black man on the scene and people want him to be the villain? No, I like him where he is just as well.
    I'd say we're in the majority in that thinking. Black Panther and Infinity War made it pretty clear that T'Challa and M'Baku are "brothers" now. And MCU M'Baku is now a national treasure.

    What indication is there that he's going to be the villain and oppose BP for the throne? Clearly not the scene where M'Baku had the chance to take the heart shaped herb but instead revealed he saved T'Challa's life and got emotional when T'Challa was restored. Nor the scene where he led his troops to help T'Challa overthrow Killmonger. Nor the scene where he joins T'Challa's council and ends the centuries long beef among the tribes. Okoye also saved M'Baku's life at the end of the film, and all of them were united behind T'Challa in Infinity War.

    If the old reddit spoilers for the trailer are true and M'Baku is king, obviously it was a mutual decision between T'Challa's fam, M'Baku, and the other tribes. Esp with Shuri right there with the other Avengers in Wakanda working together to build a contraption to undo what Thanos did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumble View Post
    I'd say we're in the majority in that thinking. Black Panther and Infinity War made it pretty clear that T'Challa and M'Baku are "brothers" now. And MCU M'Baku is now a national treasure.

    What indication is there that he's going to be the villain and oppose BP for the throne? Clearly not the scene where M'Baku had the chance to take the heart shaped herb but instead revealed he saved T'Challa's life and got emotional when T'Challa was restored. Nor the scene where he led his troops to help T'Challa overthrow Killmonger. Nor the scene where he joins T'Challa's council and ends the centuries long beef among the tribes. Okoye also saved M'Baku's life at the end of the film, and all of them were united behind T'Challa in Infinity War.

    If the old reddit spoilers for the trailer are true and M'Baku is king, obviously it was a mutual decision between T'Challa's fam, M'Baku, and the other tribes. Esp with Shuri right there with the other Avengers in Wakanda working together to build a contraption to undo what Thanos did.
    Co-sign. All true. So any calls for him to be a future villain is just...wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I've remember seeing the movie, but dont recall the scene. My suggestion was to tie the game to high tech weapons so if Tchalla wins nothing happens, but if Achebe wins, they launch. If would take place after a gauntlet of fighting villains.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvoOBbChxb4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWYy97-KsQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1nAE1czuo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buE_jLEZrf4&t=156s


    i think there is one mising but you get the point lol

    I could see something similar going on... nakia is in Switzerland putting out a fire, Okoye is in Brazil, M'baku is in the River Tribe Lands, Ross is at CIA headquaters, Shuri outtechs a countdown clock, hell, you can even insert a wider MCU cameo where Bucky stops somethign in Siberia or someshit.

    T'challa quips something about, "Wakanda is more than one man and my resources are considerable" while Achebe's best laid plans are being stopped.
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    Btw Ezyo you said Chadwick stated he's ready for the more two steps ahead Panther. Do you have a source for the quote because I'm quite curious to read what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvoOBbChxb4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWYy97-KsQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1nAE1czuo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buE_jLEZrf4&t=156s


    i think there is one mising but you get the point lol

    I could see something similar going on... nakia is in Switzerland putting out a fire, Okoye is in Brazil, M'baku is in the River Tribe Lands, Ross is at CIA headquaters, Shuri outtechs a countdown clock, hell, you can even insert a wider MCU cameo where Bucky stops somethign in Siberia or someshit.

    T'challa quips something about, "Wakanda is more than one man and my resources are considerable" while Achebe's best laid plans are being stopped.
    While they're playing you can have T'Challa and Achebe discussing the political context of the film. Something like Achebe trying to prove that opening Wakanda to the rest of the world was a wrong move and T'Challa will never end evil and suffering in the world because people in power will always have agendas, and T'Challa can retort with some of his classic braggadocio. Hell while it might come off as cheating, T'Challa could use his enhanced senses to read Achebe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I wouldnt mind it M'baku gets mind controlled and they have to fight. But the Tchalla reminds of his responsibility to his people to save him.
    I dunno I guess but why not just further instill thr brother aspect they have rather then mind control? I think it just takes away responsibility from the character, especially since Bucky already dealt with it. Just let him be the ultimate homie and ride with Tchalla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blind Wedjat View Post
    Btw Ezyo you said Chadwick stated he's ready for the more two steps ahead Panther. Do you have a source for the quote because I'm quite curious to read what he said.
    I'm looking for it but I can't find it. I'll keep digging

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