Black Panther Appreciation 2019

[Mr MajestiK]

He knocks it out of the park for Storm. But as usual he fails massively to knock it out of the park for T’challa.

I actually feel a bit sorry for Coates to be honest.

Imagine using the Black Panther solo book as an avenue to pitch ones obvious ability to write Storm really well and solidly in character at T'Challa and Wakanda's expense, in the hope of using the BP solo as a stepping stone to writing an X-title or two, only to have Jonathan Hickman come in out of nowhere to take over rewriting the entire X-Verse.

All that wilfull destruction of T'Challa and the BP Mythos was all for naught.

Coates just needs to get the frak off of further trashing the BP mythos and go sit his a$$ down somewhere.

[butterflykyss]

Good Lord... Why? Why?? This isn't Storms book. This isn't BP and Storm. It's the Black Panther..

Also lol at the second part.. well not really lol but why the f*** even waste time abd panel space for it?

As for avengers I can't wait to read it even if it's not much

storm and wakanda are forever connected. this is as hudlin had intended.

I doubt they could have been in on this the entire time. But it's very cool that they're being used again. Now there's a small group of meta human bad guys to fight. That's always funner than just the hero beating up red shirts.

agreed!

T'challa is gone worrying about memories of future people

Wakanda defends themselves against a space invasion from an advanced civilization that was brought to Wakanda BY T'challa... without T'challa.


T'challa continues to be utterly unimportant to the book. The book should logically conclude that Wakanda is much better off without T'challa right? Anything else would be an asspull at this point.

The "best" thing T'challa did was have a magic stick that keeps Storm around to defend Wakanda every once in awhile.

i.think with ororo and all the main heroes being in the future tchalla is going to be left to fight all the big villains on earth prime by himself with the aid of his sister. things should get really interesting.

and I most certainly bet his stick is very magical. lucky ororo I'm jealous.

This is one of those instances where we see T'Challa isn't just a king, but a super hero. A king might decide not to endanger their kingdom by bringing their enemies to their door. But a super hero would if it meant defeating an evil empire and serving the greater good. Not unlike AvX and Hickmans New Avengers, T'Challa is placing Wakanda at some degree of risk in order to use it as a tool to serve the greater good. Because that's what heroes do.

Shuri understandably is against it, demonstrating more of a "Wakanda first" mentality. And that's entirely justifiable. They are risking the newfound peace Wakanda is enjoying (which the book DOES credit to T'Challa), to help a bunch of people in outer space they don't even know.

It's not an easy call... but when you're an Avenger, that's what you do.

you are preaching nothing but truth as usual.

This would have been a perfect opportunity to show the might of Wakanda's tech and defense with T'challa leading the battle strategy. We rarely get a chance to see Wakanda flex and you would think the solo book during a space invasion by a future empire would be a great chance for it.

But I mean, riding a winged panther in some memory plane and speaking 2 pages is cool too

I think you will get what you are looking for in the next few issues. storm is in the future far away from tchalla. lol

[MindofShadow]

I actually feel a bit sorry for Coates to be honest.

Imagine using the Black Panther solo book as an avenue to pitch ones obvious ability to write Storm really well and solidly in character at T'Challa and Wakanda's expense, in the hope of using the BP solo as a stepping stone to writing an X-title or two, only to have Jonathan Hickman come in out of nowhere to take over rewriting the entire X-Verse.

All that wilfull destruction of T'Challa and the BP Mythos was all for naught.

Coates just needs to get the frak off of further trashing the BP mythos and go sit his a$$ down somewhere.

And yet, he can write Steve.

Dude just isn't suited to write a character like T'challa and a nation like Wakanda. It is too far outside his pessimistic views

[Mr MajestiK]

This would have been a perfect opportunity to show the might of Wakanda's tech and defense with T'challa leading the battle strategy. We rarely get a chance to see Wakanda flex and you would think the solo book during a space invasion by a future empire would be a great chance for it.

But I mean, riding a winged panther in some memory plane and speaking 2 pages is cool too

Bro, at this point, I'm not even vaguely perplexed by the nonsense Coates has been allowed to pull in the BP solo since he came onboard with his a$$ backwards approach to the BP mythos.

I can go on hiatus for months from this thread, come back and just like a repeating time loop, can be sure to see Coates still a$$ pulling the literal life out've T'Challa in favour of characters he would prefer writing, who really have no business hogging up space in a book called BLACK PANTHER.

[Mr MajestiK]

And yet, he can write Steve.

Dude just isn't suited to write a character like T'challa and a nation like Wakanda. It is too far outside his pessimistic views

Well, Coates is being closely managed by editorial on Caps solo book.

It's only over here that he's been given free reign to run roughshod all over T'Challa and the BP mythos whilst using T'Challa's solo book to elevate other characters over T'Challa at every opportunity.

And then some wonder why core BP mythos enthusiasts give short thrift to Coates using this book as a means to indulge his fetish for writing Storm to full effect whilst systematically writing T'Challa into the ground one season after the other.

[MindofShadow]

Bro, at this point, I'm not even vaguely perplexed by the nonsense Coates has been allowed to pull in the BP solo since he came onboard with his a$$ backwards approach to the BP mythos.

I can go on hiatus for months from this thread, come back and just like a repeating time loop, can be sure to see Coates still a$$ pulling the literal life out've T'Challa in favour of characters he would prefer writing, who really have no business hogging up space in a book called BLACK PANTHER.

It is kinda weird he doesn't focus on T'challa yet none of the side characters are fleshed out at all

[KingNomarch]

This would have been a perfect opportunity to show the might of Wakanda's tech and defense with T'challa leading the battle strategy. We rarely get a chance to see Wakanda flex and you would think the solo book during a space invasion by a future empire would be a great chance for it. Could you imagine something like that?

But I mean, riding a winged panther in some memory plane and speaking 2 pages is cool too

It's not like Wakanda has warships the size of Jupiter 2 that T'Challa could hide almost anywhere or panther zords ment to defend them or anything. Could you imagine something like that?

[Mr MajestiK]

It is kinda weird he doesn't focus on T'challa yet none of the side characters are fleshed out at all

The side characters aren't fleshed out for the simple fact that Coates has no real interest in any of the core BP characters that were intrinsic to the BP mythos prior to Storm's introduction to the mythos by Reginald Hudlin.

Pre-existing support characters as well as those newly created by Coates, are merely used as one or two dimensional characters designed solely for the purpose of relegating T'Challa to the proverbial back of the bus in his own solo book.

There's no rhyme or reason to Coates methodology other than spin ever expanding storylines of vacous pomposity that serve no other purpose other than to push a narrative that has nothing to do with elevating the BP mythos in a manner beneficial to T'Challa as a character of substance and Wakanda as a fully realised Afrofuturistic concept of long standing within the MU/MCU.

[XPac]

It's not like Wakanda has warships the size of Jupiter 2 that T'Challa could hide almost anywhere or panther zords ment to defend them or anything. Could you imagine something like that?

Even if they did have that stuff, isn't just easier to send Storm? If she's capable of wrapping the whole thing up in like 4 panels then might as well do that rather than risking lives and billions of dollars in equipment.

They may still need to bust out Wakandan tech... the fight is far from over. But what we saw was the quickest, easiest, most logical response to what happened. And it's why Aaron didn't go that route in Secret Invasion, even though he could have. Storm wrapping things up in 3 seconds makes things too easy, even though she could have.

[BlackClaw]

On the plus side there’s at least hope that Changamire could die when this is all over. Yay!

[Mr MajestiK]

It's not like Wakanda has warships the size of Jupiter 2 that T'Challa could hide almost anywhere or panther zords ment to defend them or anything. Could you imagine something like that?

Most true Black Panther enthusiasts familiar with Priest and Hudlin's respective BP runs were never left in any doubt as to how potent Wakanda's defense systems were.

Hell!

Even Maberry of Doomwar infany, had Wakanda's technological might on full display as he hasd Shuri and her Midnight Angels throwing the smackdown on Desturi rebels and Doombots alike using T'Challa's shadow particle infused weaponry totally unreliant on Wakandan Vibranium.

Coates comes along with his anti-T'Challa/Wakanda agenda and all of a sudden, Wakanda who at the close of Hickman's Secret Wars II saga, where on the verge of leading the rest of the planet to the infinite stars, are all of a sudden portrayed as a nation devolved into stereotypical African violence against women on some straight up Boko Haram type crap but we're supposed to be "exited" with his using the BP solo as an avenue to elevate a mutant to "godhood" at Bast, T'Challa and Wakanda's expense?

Bollocks to that mate.

[Mr MajestiK]

Even if they did have that stuff, isn't just easier to send Storm? If she's capable of wrapping the whole thing up in like 4 panels then might as well do that rather than risking lives and billions of dollars in equipment.

They may still need to bust out Wakandan tech... the fight is far from over. But what we saw was the quickest, easiest, most logical response to what happened. And it's why Aaron didn't go that route in Secret Invasion, even though he could have. Storm wrapping things up in 3 seconds makes things too easy, even though she could have.

That's what the X-titles are there for.

Do you see T'Challa portrayed in any of the X-books, saving the day and being elevated as a 'god" over there?

[Mr MajestiK]

On the plus side there’s at least hope that Changamire could die when this is all over. Yay!

Changamire's worthless a$$ needs to be slapped with a sledgehammer.

Repeatedly.

[Blind Wedjat]

Came back to Coates book and immediately got reminded how **** it is.

Storm is just a deus ex machina lmao.

[KingNomarch]

On the plus side there’s at least hope that Changamire could die when this is all over. Yay!

He can take Eden and pretty much any other character Coates brought onboard with him if he goes.