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    Jean seems to see Rachel the way a biological parent might see a child that was put up for adoption but reconnected in their adult life: they aren't close, but there's a connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    Jean seems to see Rachel the way a biological parent might see a child that was put up for adoption but reconnected in their adult life: they aren't close, but there's a connection.
    That's a pretty good assessment, sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    They did that prior to the mini series and we've seen Jean interact with her since then. Again she doesnt view or even treat Rachel, the same way she does Cable
    Somehow, I doubt that if it came down to it that Jean could or would choose one child over the other in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shreene View Post
    Somehow, I doubt that if it came down to it that Jean could or would choose one child over the other in any case.
    If someone was threatening Nate, Wi-Fi, and Rachel with death, and she can only choose to save one, I'd think she'd choose Wi-Fi. Nate being a reality warper means that he probably survives, and Rachel has a connection to the Phoenix so she probably wouldn't be dead long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    If someone was threatening Nate, Wi-Fi, and Rachel with death, and she can only choose to save one, I'd think she'd choose Wi-Fi. Nate being a reality warper means that he probably survives, and Rachel has a connection to the Phoenix so she probably wouldn't be dead long.
    Wi-fi is also the only one that Jean has that actual maternal connection to, the one that was actually raised by her: it's a situation that would suck but it has a clear and definitive answer.

    It's also important to remember for everyone that tries to argue that Cable isn't her son because she didn't give birth to him that for all intents and purposes, yes she did. She remembers carrying him and giving birth to him. She has all of Maddy's memories about being pregnant and giving birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    If someone was threatening Nate, Wi-Fi, and Rachel with death, and she can only choose to save one, I'd think she'd choose Wi-Fi. Nate being a reality warper means that he probably survives, and Rachel has a connection to the Phoenix so she probably wouldn't be dead long.

    Why a life or death situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    Wi-fi is also the only one that Jean has that actual maternal connection to, the one that was actually raised by her: it's a situation that would suck but it has a clear and definitive answer.

    It's also important to remember for everyone that tries to argue that Cable isn't her son because she didn't give birth to him that for all intents and purposes, yes she did. She remembers carrying him and giving birth to him. She has all of Maddy's memories about being pregnant and giving birth.
    She kinda of considered Cable her biological kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    Wi-fi is also the only one that Jean has that actual maternal connection to, the one that was actually raised by her: it's a situation that would suck but it has a clear and definitive answer.

    It's also important to remember for everyone that tries to argue that Cable isn't her son because she didn't give birth to him that for all intents and purposes, yes she did. She remembers carrying him and giving birth to him. She has all of Maddy's memories about being pregnant and giving birth.



    Yeah she loved him as her own since he was a baby and Maddie's memories which merged with hers does add an extra layer to this

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    She kinda of considered Cable her biological kid
    He was. Maddy and Jean were identical duplicates, so Cable has her DNA... and she remembers giving birth to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shreene View Post
    Why a life or death situation?
    It's a common theoretical, especially for parents with multiple kids. Doesn't mean Jean hates Nate or Rachel. Also, it was mostly a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    He was. Maddy and Jean were identical duplicates, so Cable has her DNA... and she remembers giving birth to him.
    And, Mr. Sinister verified that Rachel is a Grey/Summers offspring -- so her DNA would stand up to a paternity test too despite Jean having no memory of said future event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    They did that prior to the mini series and we've seen Jean interact with her since then. Again she doesnt view or even treat Rachel, the same way she does Cable
    I think that's what people are saying. That aspect needs to change the X-writers need to do a better job of portraying a Mother/Daughter relationship between the two. Taylor on the X-men Red annual did a great job with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsikord View Post
    He was. Maddy and Jean were identical duplicates, so Cable has her DNA... and she remembers giving birth to him.
    I wouldnt say that. Would you consider twin sisters that have kids biological mothers to each other's children bc its a similar situation here. Genetically Cable would be more along the lines of a nephew. She raising him makes him, her child

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shreene View Post
    And, Mr. Sinister verified that Rachel is a Grey/Summers offspring -- so her DNA would stand up to a paternity test too despite Jean having no memory of said future event.
    You're cherry-picking to make your point, because that wasn't what anyone was saying. What was being said was that Jean remembers being pregnant with Cable, giving birth to Cable, and raising Cable until he was an adolescent, him coming back into her life first as a fully grown adult and then as a teen.

    She has none of that with Rachel. She wasn't involved in raising her. She doesn't remember being pregnant with her or giving birth to her.

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    I'm all for Jean and Rachel getting closer and Jean considering her daughter. But it's true that what she has with Nathan is different and that it makes complete sense for them to have a bigger familial bond.

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