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    Jean Grey was the only real Phoenix that saved the universe on multiple occasions, and with a portion of the Phoenix force she saved a planet from the Celestials.

    Rachel has Phoenix power because she inherited from her mother.

    Hope did not have a permanent connection with the Phoenix. Once she helped undo No More Mutants, her connection was completely gone as if it never existed.

    Anyone else like Emma or Quentin were not Phoenixes. The Phoenix could possess an insect (We've seen this) or anything. But most people cannot utilize it for true cosmic purposes. Example the Phoenix 5 could not break Wanda's spell and restore mutants to Earth. They couldn't truly channel the Phoenix power and afterwards they were broken.

    Jean is the prime host/the true avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    Jean Grey was the only real Phoenix that saved the universe on multiple occasions, and with a portion of the Phoenix force she saved a planet from the Celestials.

    Rachel has Phoenix power because she inherited from her mother.

    Hope did not have a permanent connection with the Phoenix. Once she helped undo No More Mutants, her connection was completely gone as if it never existed.

    Anyone else like Emma or Quentin were not Phoenixes. The Phoenix could possess an insect (We've seen this) or anything. But most people cannot utilize it for true cosmic purposes. Example the Phoenix 5 could not break Wanda's spell and restore mutants to Earth. They couldn't truly channel the Phoenix power and afterwards they were broken.

    Jean is the prime host/the true avatar.
    The P5 couldn't break the spell, but it is doubtful Jean or Rachel could either. Hope was needed to do it because of her powers.

    Rachel also saved the universe as Phoenix at least twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    The P5 couldn't break the spell, but it is doubtful Jean or Rachel could either. Hope was needed to do it because of her powers.

    Rachel also saved the universe as Phoenix at least twice.
    Morrison had Jean as white Phoenix of the crown hold the universe in her hands, amputate a future universe, and set things down a different path. Normally she's not at that power level but at that stage of power she can do anything.

    Being that Apocalypse was able to use celestial technology to restore the powers of Polaris and Sunfire and the High Evolutionary used this technology to restore the powers of Magneto, a very basic level Phoenix/Jean or Phoenix/Rachel could have restored the mutant powers of a depowered mutant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    Morrison had Jean as white Phoenix of the crown hold the universe in her hands, amputate a future universe, and set things down a different path. Normally she's not at that power level but at that stage of power she can do anything.

    Being that Apocalypse was able to use celestial technology to restore the powers of Polaris and Sunfire and the High Evolutionary used this technology to restore the powers of Magneto, a very basic level Phoenix/Jean or Phoenix/Rachel could have restored the mutant powers of a depowered mutant.
    Except Chaos magic hurts the Phoenix. The only reason Hope was able to undo the Chaos spell was because she could use Wanda's powers and the Phoenix's at the same time, which normally isn't possible. It isn't a case of Jean not being strong enough, it's a compatibility issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Except Chaos magic hurts the Phoenix. The only reason Hope was able to undo the Chaos spell was because she could use Wanda's powers and the Phoenix's at the same time, which normally isn't possible. It isn't a case of Jean not being strong enough, it's a compatibility issue.
    It hurts the host not the Force...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoEFrost View Post
    Except Chaos magic hurts the Phoenix. The only reason Hope was able to undo the Chaos spell was because she could use Wanda's powers and the Phoenix's at the same time, which normally isn't possible. It isn't a case of Jean not being strong enough, it's a compatibility issue.
    Hope was mimicking Wanda?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Hope was mimicking Wanda?

    But Wanda isn't a mutant right? hummmm

    My theory seems to work well: Wanda was a mutant, until she desired to not be magneto daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    But Wanda isn't a mutant right? hummmm

    My theory seems to work well: Wanda was a mutant, until she desired to not be magneto daughter.
    This is fun
    She was a mutant at the time of AvX. The retcon didnt happen until later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She was a mutant at the time of AvX. The retcon didnt happen until later
    The retcon was on Axis. Wanda can warp reality. Or then Hope can mimic non mutants

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    The retcon was on Axis. Wanda can warp reality. Or then Hope can mimic non mutants
    Axis happened after AvX

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    Cool, I wonder how this movie could have gone if FOX used the original desing.
    It would be weird to see Jean walking naked.
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    It's a joke, playing with the comparission people do between Jean and Jesus. and Cyclops is not even a real person anyway
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    There are two possibilities. Either the Wanda/Pietro origin retcon was actually caused by Wanda's reality warping powers, or yeah, Hope can mimic non-mutants. The latter would make sense, since Rogue can absorb non-mutants (Carol Danvers, Wonder-Man, Hulk).

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