If a writer wanted to, he or she could easily reestablish John's relationships with Tawny and his mom:
If a writer wanted to, he or she could easily reestablish John's relationships with Tawny and his mom:
EXACTLY!!! That's what I've been talking about. John always have to look bad so other Green Lantern characters can look good. I think we have to understand is that these writers are fans, too. It's almost like some posters on this forum, who are fans of Hal Jordan or whoever else are writing these comics and they have to handle John in their book. So yea, writers are fans as much as we are.
I don't expect any big developments for John Stewart when Robert Venditti takes over either.
I kinda liked John’s interactions with Zod under Venditti. John was treated well, in my opinion.
Imagine being proud to have negative traits. I can’t relate.
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I have no counter-arguments for any of this. My only issue with those scans is that very rarely will writers follow-up with that characterization to so how layered John is.
I love the DCAU version of John.
My issue is that the comic creators instilled the marine background, but with none of the agency that the DCAU version had. So, John became really boring, and safe....unless a planet needed to be destroyed or a weak-willed GL needed his neck snapped.
Vampire Savior called comic book John a Gordon Goodbrother (what phrase!), and for the most part, it was an accurate description.
Started reading Can't Hurt Me today. It's an autobiography of David Goggins, a former Air Force Combat Controller and Navy SEAL turned ultramarathon runner, ultra-distance cyclist, triathlete, and motivational speaker. Writers should definitely draw on his bio when writing John. This dude is living, breathing lesson in willpower and self-discipline.
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It's sad but I think that the best opportunity for John Stewart is when a movie for Green Lantern is made and if he's included then I can see at least the possibility of John being made with better balance, and given agency.
Johns was told to rewrite his script and will have a new draft in by the end of the year.
WB says the film is a priority, and it's one of the projects they're interested in having JJ Abrams handling, along with Superman.
https://www.newsarama.com/48026-geof...os-report.html
https://www.newsarama.com/48024-j-j-...lm-report.html
This was brought up a month or so ago, but folks didn't think the original rumor came from a reputable source. Now that Newsarama is saying it, it looks like this will be more convincing.
The other rumor was that WB hopes Superman and GLC will be set in the same universe as The Batman.
JJ Abrams has previously included black characters in leading roles (Almost Human, Undercovers, etc.). With his sci fi blockbuster experience, I think he'd be a good choice for GLC. But there's no "there" there yet.
Heheh. Maybe WB wanted a rewrite because Geoff Johns turned in a script with John Stewart only having one scene and one sentence of dialogue. And in that scene he needs to be saved by Hal Jordan.
Seems like something he would do.
There’s nothing in the Variety article about a rewrite, I thought Johns was submitting his first go at the script.
I haven't read the Variety article, but here's what Newsarama wrote:
Emphasis added.
Given his previous involvement over several years, I would be surprised if this were a first draft. I mean, they were shopping this to directors and actors. I remember reading about Tom Cruise turning this down.
Of course, I would expect whoever comes on board to initiate more rewrites. There was a script for GotG Marvel had before Gunn completely rewrote it from page 1.
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Yeah there's no mention of a rewrite. If my timeline is correct, the initial script was announced to be written by David Goyer and Justin Rhodes all the way back when Johns was still supposedly co-running the DC movies. He was not co-writing that script, as opposed to getting a story credit. He was then hired last year to write a new script that was reported to be separate from what came before from Goyer and Rhodes. I'm guessing that's what the line about the "new" script must be referring to, which as you said isn't in the original Variety report. I haven't heard anything about Johns delivering his own draft and the studio rejecting it and telling him to rewrite it again.
Last edited by Johnny; 11-26-2019 at 11:41 AM.