Laura Kinney: X-23 Appreciation 2019

[Dthirds3]

Laura fans, which do you think was the worst Laura.

Laura in All New X-men by Bendis

Laura in All New X-men v2 by Hopeless

Laura in Disassembled by Thompson, Brisson and Rosenberg

Laura in Fallen Angels by Hill

FA Laura and hopeless are tied for now, but FA Laura will most likely soon be worse

[pkingdom]

Bendis has the advantage of coming before at least some of the stories that tried to grow Laura as a character. FA stings so much because of what came immediately before.

[Tycon]

lmao this is where they left laura off.

[staptik777]

Laura fans, which do you think was the worst Laura.

Laura in All New X-men by Bendis

Laura in All New X-men v2 by Hopeless

Laura in Disassembled by Thompson, Brisson and Rosenberg

Laura in Fallen Angels by Hill

Laura in X-23 v4 by Mariko Tamaki

[ThreatLevel-X]

I'm appalled to find myself considering that Bendis was the BEST on this list. Generic teen dialogue and hamfisting her into the relationship with Warren aside, Bendis's Laura was at least more or less recognizable AS Laura.

At least with Bendis you could tweak her dialogue, Hopeless Laura was just an entirely different character... Pretty sure she was a clone or something.

[Digifiend]

Bendis has the advantage of coming before at least some of the stories that tried to grow Laura as a character. FA stings so much because of what came immediately before.

Exactly, she's regressed. I don't think Hill has read All-New Wolverine or Tamaki's X-23, as he's ignoring them. As well as the outdated characterisation, Gabby isn't mentioned - as though she doesn't exist. Bendis gets a pass as he was before Taylor.

[DAHX]

lmao this is where they left laura off.

Oh God, this is the characterization Hill continues....

Exactly, she's regressed. I don't think Hill has read All-New Wolverine or Tamaki's X-23, as he's ignoring them. As well as the outdated characterisation, Gabby isn't mentioned - as though she doesn't exist. Bendis gets a pass as he was before Taylor.

it really feels like he didn't read ANW and X-23, and I'm still baffled that the editors greenlit this characterization. They really don't care about Laura since Logan came back...

[Nazrel]

Exactly, she's regressed. I don't think Hill has read All-New Wolverine or Tamaki's X-23, as he's ignoring them. As well as the outdated characterisation, Gabby isn't mentioned - as though she doesn't exist. Bendis gets a pass as he was before Taylor.

It was still inreconcilablly at odds with established characterization and development.

Regressed is inaccurate, these were not her problems at any point.

[spirit2011]

it really feels like he didn't read ANW and X-23, and I'm still baffled that the editors greenlit this characterization. They really don't care about Laura since Logan came back...

it really seems like with Logan coming back X-office doesn't give a damn about Laura

Paniccia at least cared about Laura, too bad he is gone

[Ambaryerno]

It was still inreconcilablly at odds with established characterization and development.

Her dialogue, certainly. But at least the things she DID, like her dislike of being touched, (which I've got to credit Bendis for being one of the few writers that remembered and making use of that symptom of abuse) her breakdown over learning about the origin of mutants in that waste hole that is the Ultimate Universe, (given her own origins it certainly would hit a nerve) and even how she responded to Tyke.

[Dthirds3]

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[ThreatLevel-X]

Her dialogue, certainly. But at least the things she DID, like her dislike of being touched, (which I've got to credit Bendis for being one of the few writers that remembered and making use of that symptom of abuse) her breakdown over learning about the origin of mutants in that waste hole that is the Ultimate Universe, (given her own origins it certainly would hit a nerve) and even how she responded to Tyke.

Speaking of good and bad characterisation... Ambaryerno your fic probably has the best Laura in a fanfic I’ve seen to date, I’d nominate you to write her in a heartbeat.

And yeah Bendis did seem to have some inkling of her story and trauma... I just think he has trouble writing those introverted characters and writing Laura, who is kind of difficult to achieve balance with dialogue wise wasn’t a great combination.

[Ambaryerno]

Speaking of good and bad characterisation... Ambaryerno your fic probably has the best Laura in a fanfic I’ve seen to date, I’d nominate you to write her in a heartbeat.

And yeah Bendis did seem to have some inkling of her story and trauma... I just think he has trouble writing those introverted characters and writing Laura, who is kind of difficult to achieve balance with dialogue wise wasn’t a great combination.

Thanks. It would let me do my, "Laura and Hellion reunite on a sexy James Bond Spy Mission" idea.

[Beaubier]

Laura fans, which do you think was the worst Laura.

Laura in All New X-men by Bendis

Laura in All New X-men v2 by Hopeless

Laura in Disassembled by Thompson, Brisson and Rosenberg

Laura in Fallen Angels by Hill

Hopeless’s Laura in ANXM was hands down the worst. It seemed like he was writing her in the most inflammatory way possible to spite her fans. It felt like he was doing it on purpose to be mean spirited. It’s the only logical explanation because in no universe do I see a writer thinking THAT was a good idea. It downright diminished her character in every way possible.

Bendis’s Laura is unforgivable because the way he wrote her set a precedent that she still can’t get away from. With Bendis teenifying her, that tossed out her mannerisms that KYost and Liu established and Gage continued. It helped set the template that Taylor, Tamaki, and yes even Hopeless and pretty much every other writer that have butchered her since. She’s become a much less compelling and unique character thanks to the teenification of Bendis.

Hill’s Laura mostly suffers from a dumbing down of her abilities and the forced student relationship with Kwannon, along with the dumb “tame your rage” lessons. While it ignores prior characterization and feels patronizing and absurd, it’s less ridiculous than Hopeless and isnÂ’t likely to irrevocably damage her character like Bendis. It’ll likely end up being a forgotten foot note in her history.

[ThreatLevel-X]

Hopeless’s Laura in ANXM was hands down the worst. It seemed like he was writing her in the most inflammatory way possible to spite her fans. It felt like he was doing it on purpose to be mean spirited. It’s the only logical explanation because in no universe do I see a writer thinking THAT was a good idea. It downright diminished her character in every way possible.

Bendis’s Laura is unforgivable because the way he wrote her set a precedent that she still can’t get away from. With Bendis teenifying her, that tossed out her mannerisms that KYost and Liu established and Gage continued. It helped set the template that Taylor, Tamaki, and yes even Hopeless and pretty much every other writer that have butchered her since. She’s become a much less compelling and unique character thanks to the teenification of Bendis.

Hill’s Laura mostly suffers from a dumbing down of her abilities and the forced student relationship with Kwannon, along with the dumb “tame your rage” lessons. While it ignores prior characterization and feels patronizing and absurd, it’s less ridiculous than Hopeless and isnÂ’t likely to irrevocably damage her character like Bendis. It’ll likely end up being a forgotten foot note in her history.

Can’t help but agree with you on this... Taylor’s run has been the best (imo) since Bendis but Laura still feels... off to me there.