Dick Grayson: Robin, Nightwing, Batman, Agent of Spyral Appreciation 2019

[byrd156]

Well both represent aspects I think are wrong with modern superhero comics. Ric is lazy and no effort at its worst, but HiC checks all the boxes for terrible event books. Needless shock value, overly miserable writing, decompressed to hell, far too many issues, extreme lengths to write heroes out of character, and gratuitous deaths used to sell the book. I don't think it having effort put into it excuses it for representing a very large segment with what I feel is wrong with current comics.

It's all equally awful in my eyes.

[oasis1313]

Glad I'm sitting out HiC. Looked like it was going to be nothing but shock value.

[Ascended]

Glad I'm sitting out HiC. Looked like it was going to be nothing but shock value.

I was interested in the idea of exploring mental health through the lens of superheroics, but after reading the first issue I was done. I didn't lose my mind like some posters here did, I figured the deaths (some of them at least) were probably red herrings or there'd be some twist at the end, so I decided to just keep an eye on reviews and maybe get the trade.

But from what I hear I really doubt I'll be getting the trade unless that final issue is a masterpiece and somehow justifies this BS. What's been done to Wally would have me beyond pissed if I could muster the will to give a damn anymore (Wally is still *my* Flash, but DC has made it hard to care this past decade) and Roy.....he was one of the best characters DC had, and they've never known what to do with him.

I'm not sure if Dick avoiding all this was good or bad, considering Ric is the excuse they're using to sideline him.

[Godlike13]

Wally did us all a favor with some of those deaths

[oasis1313]

Wally did us all a favor with some of those deaths

Can you make a spoiler box and tell us who all bit the dust?

[Godlike13]

Honestly I can’t remember them all, highlights though were Roy and Gnarrk.

[Frontier]

Wally did us all a favor with some of those deaths

Which is kind of ironic when you're referring to him killing one of his and Dick's closest friends .

[Godlike13]

Was he though...

[Frontier]

Was he though...

In-universe he's supposed to be.

[Badou]

In-universe he's supposed to be.

Yet no one will even bother telling Dick about his death and he won't even react to it. Same with all the other deaths. When you really break it town their relationships to Dick, even including Wally's, is completely irrelevant in comics now. Roy and Jason's relationship is VASTLY more developed right now and that is pretty sad. So I don't really know if you can even call them close friends anymore.

I mean Dick gets his memories back and a Babs or someone goes to tell him something like, "While you were in your Ric phase Wally killed Roy and all these other heroes and then killed himself. We didn't bother telling you before. Our bad. Okay, bye." What is Dick supposed to do there? Be upset no one told him that who are supposed to be his closest friends all died horribly? When Dick was a giant ******* to everyone while he was Ric? That is just another aspect to this whole thing that pissed me off so much.

[oasis1313]

Yet no one will even bother telling Dick about his death and he won't even react to it. Same with all the other deaths. When you really break it town their relationships to Dick, even including Wally's, is completely irrelevant in comics now. Roy and Jason's relationship is VASTLY more developed right now and that is pretty sad. So I don't really know if you can even call them close friends anymore.

I mean Dick gets his memories back and a Babs or someone goes to tell him something like, "While you were in your Ric phase Wally killed Roy and all these other heroes and then killed himself. We didn't bother telling you before. Our bad. Okay, bye." What is Dick supposed to do there? Be upset no one told him that who are supposed to be his closest friends all died horribly? When Dick was a giant ******* to everyone while he was Ric? That is just another aspect to this whole thing that pissed me off so much.

Nothing new here. Nobody bothered to tell Dick that Jason was dead or that Bruce had broken his back, etc etc etc. It's not like anyone expects COMPETENCY at DC.

[Mr. White]

But why dosen't DC view dick as important? I mean he meets all of the criteria that proofs he's like there 5th or 6th biggest character. I don't get it.

What more can be done by dick fans and supporters to show that dick has what it takes.

Childish I know...but the constant "dick" mentions (as opposed to "Dick") reads a tad amusing.

Solid points though. Don't get it either.

[Restingvoice]

Honestly I can’t remember them all, highlights though were Roy and Gnarrk.

Oh Gnarrk died too?

[Hilden B. Lade]

Well, Tom King has posted a tease for an upcoming Batman issue of his featuring the Batfamily in action together and *SIGH* to little surprise Dick's nowhere in sight.

The tease if anyone's interested

Ric will probably be running around like a bozo for a while longer.

[L.H.]

Well, Tom King has posted a tease for an upcoming Batman issue of his featuring the Batfamily in action together and *SIGH* to little surprise Dick's nowhere in sight.

The tease if anyone's interested

Ric will probably be running around like a bozo for a while longer.

Well, right now being written by King is more dangerous than walking trough Crime Alley with a pearl necklace. Probably, he is just searching for the next character to destroy.