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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Would you be motivated to write Nightwing when you have to write a bunch of no-names as Nightwing, and Dick isn't even Dick?
    He's the one that keeps claiming how interesting the direction is.
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    Do you guys think Ric will make them more hesitant to try new things with Dick in the future now? I said this before, but with the way they direct things to Ric and the direction, instead of ever acknowledging the sup par work behind Ric and what was was actually done with Ric, i feel like it could. Which would be a shame. Because the execution was and is as equally, if not more, responsible for how shitty Ric turned out then anything else. And it would suck if their attempts to hide behind the direction resulted in even less experimentation and trying of new things.
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    All I know is that Ric has made sure that I will NOT be buying anymore safe slop from Blüdhaven. I'm giving mediocre authors no more chances to not make this city suck like it does. Nobody below the tier of Bendis will bring me to touch another Nightwing book written in this city. This is the opposite of experimental. It's the safest, more boring crap there is. They need to nuke the city and move on. Hell nuking it gives it more potential than it has now or will ever have.
    It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?

    Since when could just anybody do what we trained to do? It makes it all dumb instead of special. Like it doesn't matter anymore.
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    I liked the casino themed Bludhaven, but this back alley dive bar Bludhaven can f off.

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    All they need to do is take Nightwing out of Bludhaven. Nuking it just means you have to spend an entire story arc leading up to said nuking and then the fall out of it, even if you do pretend it doesn't exist anymore after all that you still have to spend considerable page space for it. Just open an arc with him already moved out, just like we got with Rebirth's Nightwing #10 where Dick was already moved into Bludhaven.

    Still, I don't expect either of those things to happen. We're probably going to be stuck with super safe stories set in Bludhaven for the foreseeable future tbh. There's just no real ambition when it comes to the mainline comics. Anything interesting is happening outside of it, like their graphic novel lines and Black Label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayson - The Dark Heir View Post
    All they need to do is take Nightwing out of Bludhaven. Nuking it just means you have to spend an entire story arc leading up to said nuking and then the fall out of it, even if you do pretend it doesn't exist anymore after all that you still have to spend considerable page space for it. Just open an arc with him already moved out, just like we got with Rebirth's Nightwing #10 where Dick was already moved into Bludhaven.

    Still, I don't expect either of those things to happen. We're probably going to be stuck with super safe stories set in Bludhaven for the foreseeable future tbh. There's just no real ambition when it comes to the mainline comics. Anything interesting is happening outside of it, like their graphic novel lines and Black Label.
    Nightwing doesn’t have to leave bludhaven it can still be his home

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    Casino Bludhaven that was basically Las Vegas was the only time I’ve ever cared about Bludhaven. That aesthetic fit Dick’s personality perfectly and should never have been abandoned. Let Dick join whatever spy organization arises from Event Leviathan and have that spy organization HQ in Bludhaven. That way when you want Dick to be Nightwing in Bludhaven it makes sense and when you want to do global spy stories that also makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    Nightwing doesn’t have to leave bludhaven it can still be his home
    Why? What does it being his home offer him? It doesn't protect him from being dragged into Gotham for Batman events and stories, and there are no other characters in Bludhaven worth a damn. It is a complete waste of space that has had like 150 issues by many different writers all failing at turning it into anything substantial. Something that actually benefits the character. I'll never understand why people are so attached to it. It is just an anchor around Dick's neck that drags him through mediocre story after mediocre story. An uninspiring setting where writers churn out lazy ideas we've read dozens of times and forces the character into some of the most generic aspects and trappings of superhero comics.

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    I was robbed out of a good nuked Blüdhaven story and the fact that Dick didn't play a larger role in Final Crisis was a travesty.

    I demand a redo.
    It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?

    Since when could just anybody do what we trained to do? It makes it all dumb instead of special. Like it doesn't matter anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Would you be motivated to write Nightwing when you have to write a bunch of no-names as Nightwing, and Dick isn't even Dick?
    Hell yeah. I'd be motivated to write Dick Grayson in any form. I think the Nightwings have merit, more-so as an arc or two but nothing long running. As for Dick not being Dick, I'd be the writer so I'd get to choose how he'd act. Ric would never ever happen under my pen. Ric and the Nightwings aren't a bad idea. (The name change is but I digress.) Amnesia and fall from grace stories are a dime a dozen and are fun from time to time, (Batman and Aquaman just had some semi-recently) this could be something special like Knightfall or Death & Return of Superman. This feels like a half assed mash-up of the two stories with some extra worse parts of the 90s thrown in.

    I think Dick giving up on being a hero after losing his memory is fine, makes enough sense to me. Having some cops in Bludhaven decide to take over as Nightwing is fine as well. These two core ideas are fine. It's the details and the fine lines that makes this story so boring and lame to read.

    Dick feels very passive in his own damn book, that's a big no no. If this was called the Nightwings or We Are Nightwing that would be fine but it's not, this is still Dick's book. I think a lot of the moments of Dick helping people out of compulsion or "muscle memory" as they say in the books are generally the best moments of the book. I think those should keep ramping up until Dick realizes who he needs to be again. The Scarecrow arc is the biggest offense to me, he was written horribly and the whole arc was very unsatisfying. Scarecrow should've been the main bad guy for the whole arc of the Nightwings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    He's the one that keeps claiming how interesting the direction is.
    Jurgens or me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Do you guys think Ric will make them more hesitant to try new things with Dick in the future now? I said this before, but with the way they direct things to Ric and the direction, instead of ever acknowledging the sup par work behind Ric and what was was actually done with Ric, i feel like it could. Which would be a shame. Because the execution was and is as equally, if not more, responsible for how shitty Ric turned out then anything else. And it would suck if their attempts to hide behind the direction resulted in even less experimentation and trying of new things.
    No I doubt this run will affect anything going forward. DC will do whatever they feel like with the character going forward. This run feels like it's making enough money and DC doesn't care about Dick right now anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badou View Post
    Why? What does it being his home offer him? It doesn't protect him from being dragged into Gotham for Batman events and stories, and there are no other characters in Bludhaven worth a damn. It is a complete waste of space that has had like 150 issues by many different writers all failing at turning it into anything substantial. Something that actually benefits the character. I'll never understand why people are so attached to it. It is just an anchor around Dick's neck that drags him through mediocre story after mediocre story. An uninspiring setting where writers churn out lazy ideas we've read dozens of times and forces the character into some of the most generic aspects and trappings of superhero comics.
    Why do you hate it so much?

    What exactly is the city suppose to do that it’s not fulfilling. How is it different from star city, central city go city? Dick could live in Tibet and he is still gonna run tonGotham and Batman when called no location can change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    What spotlight, its not about that,
    The league does not spend time making the OG YG team feel inferior or second string, they can both act independently and collaborate with each other respectfully
    They have healthy relationships, unlike the mess we saw back in the annual or the close of the Troia arc


    The whole better then batman thing is suppose to be a brief phase that he grows out of, but it remain continuous due to time never moving forward in the new 52/rebirth
    The League in Young Justice doesn't make the OG team feel inferior or second string because they're not second strings. They're the main characters. The story is about them. Of course, they don't treat them that way. The League is the supporting cast.

    On the other hand, the League in the comic can afford to be an ass because they're the focus, the main characters, events revolve around them. People don't have to read Titans to know what's happening in DCU at large but they need to read the League. So they can do whatever they want with Titans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byrd156 View Post
    Jurgens or me?
    You , no Jurgens of course. It’s pretty much the only thing he says about his run.

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