The idea that fans killed Grayson needs to die. It’s not true. Just look at Ric.
The idea that fans killed Grayson needs to die. It’s not true. Just look at Ric.
The current incarnation of Plastic Man was "reborn" into Plas during Forever Evil, yeah? In Gotham? When OWLMAN knocked him into waste chemicals? If so both Dick and Plastic Man died and were reborn during Forever Evil as a direct result of the specific meddling of Owlman. Not that I'm entirely sure how much A. New 52 and B. Plastic Man backstory persists after Rebirth. Like, truly nobody cared that Plastic Man was casually "born" during that event.
Continuing on that though ... obviously Plastic Man was in some kind of lockdown during METAL and came out of it, came out of an egg, basically, was sort of born into a broken world in the sence that he came back and the Dark Multiverse had legit broken the world. Nightwing had a weird Nth Metal dagger third eye spiritual multiversal awakening thing going on during Metal.
Retro315 no more. Anonymity is so 2005.
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The current DC major project Leviathan is centered around the spy agencies and the fact they were underdeveloped. He would have been a central figure in that story. I just think fans need to be open minded and not so rooted in nostalgia with some characters. With that said I think the character is at his lowest point in decades. I hope it gets better soon.
i think the thing that bothers me the most is that this was a Tom King idea...correct? Ric/Dick Grayson/Nightwing hasn't appeared in a single issue of Batman since the headshot, has he? i guess i just can't comprehend why you would suggest this be done to a character within your wheelhouse and then just ignore it?
One panel in the most recent issue.
Objectively, it's because they know Nightwing has his own series so anything happened to Nightwing can be handled in Nightwing so Batman series can just focus on what happens to Batman. The Nightwing series and all the other Batfam series counts as part of Batman wheelhouse
King doesn’t care for Ric. His idea was to shoot Dick in the head, that’s it, the stuff that came after, Ric and ripping off We Are Robin, is on the Nightwing team and King doesn’t want to touch it anymore then anyone else.
Last edited by Godlike13; 05-19-2019 at 06:07 PM.
Ric situation now is just the second coming of that elseworld where Bruce thinks Superman killed his parents and went crazy, slapped Dick , erased his memories and threw him away on the streets with no thought about him ever. It’s incredibly fucked up because it is really happening in both mainverse and real world now and Bruce doesn’t even have the excuse of being a villain.
Last edited by nhienphan2808; 05-20-2019 at 03:19 AM.
Yeah, the first "real one". Renegade Nightwing was a thing and was a brief storyline. And the cop-out / interesting story bit where it could be a result of the gunshot to the head and there'd be a split, and the whole Ric thing going on, makes for a good exit strategy for "fixing" Dick afterward. But as another sort of chapter in the recent history of Dick Grayson I'd kind of like if he ends up being Leviathan to live with it for a while, sort of a strange "Season 4" of the Grayson 1 / Grayson 2 / Seeley Nightwing / running stories with spies and such.
Retro315 no more. Anonymity is so 2005.
retrowarbird.blogspot.com
Retro315 no more. Anonymity is so 2005.
retrowarbird.blogspot.com
And while I don't think it will actually happen, it would actually provide a bit of context just how awful Ric has been. "Hey, one of our biggest names, Bendis, wants to use Dick as a villain/supershady spy mastermind. We need to do something so absolutely awful that the people who would normally not want to see this will at least be happy Ric is over."