Titans/Teen Titans Appreciation 2019

[HandofPrometheus]

Here's a thought...

What if DC really had tried to make the Titans into an X-Men-sized franchise?

While I do think that Peterson's influence on tone was detrimental to the title... he did have some good ideas about strengthening the Titans as a franchise by bringing Deathstroke back into the book and giving the Titans a second team title.
However, I don't think Team Titans was the best way to go.

Looking at Marvel's tactics with X-Men, especially in the '80s and '90s, they would periodically re-invent the line-up of the X-Men and launch new teams by splitting off some of the popular characters into a new series.
Excalibur used Kitty, Nightcrawler and Rachel.
X-Factor was the founders, which included Cyclops, someone that had been in X-Men for forever.

Imagine if, instead of getting a team of unknown nobodies and an alternate reality Terra... we got...

The Titans West team that Wolfman had been planning, but with Cyborg and Changeling being the transfers to the new team.
I've looked at his original thoughts for the line-up, and after adding Changeling, I would drop Diah H for two females: Bumblebee and Dr. Light (Kimiyo).
This would've given a line-up of:
Cyborg (leader)
Changeling
Bumblebee
Red Star
Thunder
Lightning
Dr. Light II

A much stronger pull than Team Titans, I think.

And since DC and Marvel are always taking cues from each other...
A second Titans spin-off team could've been the Fab Five (ala X-Factor): Nightwing (leader), Troia, Tempest, Flash and Arsenal.

As for who would remain in the main book, they'd still have Starfire (who would naturally become leader), Raven, Pantha, Jericho and some new members.
Wolfman could've been already building up the new members to replace Changeling, Cyborg, Nightwing and Troia... if they had been thinking about expanding like this.
And constant crossovers with the other two books would ensure that they would still be making regular appearances.

Didn't get a chance to respond to this.

Love the lineup and I always said the Titans franchise should take notes from the X-men best days or at least experiment with what they did. However, isn't Kimiyo a little bit too old? Like isn't she around the JL member ages? I guess I always saw her as 30 or mid 30s.

[byrd156]

Agreed. Maybe Alex Ross might be the one who could return the Titans/Teen Titans to their former glory. Ross could do something remotely similar to his Earth X/Universe X/Paradise X from Marvel.

I really want a book like Justice that focuses on the Titans. Like 4-8 issues is all I'm asking.

[Lee Stone]

Didn't get a chance to respond to this.

Love the lineup and I always said the Titans franchise should take notes from the X-men best days or at least experiment with what they did. However, isn't Kimiyo a little bit too old? Like isn't she around the JL member ages? I guess I always saw her as 30 or mid 30s.

The Titans at the time were entering their 20s and had dropped the 'Teen'.
Kimiyo could be in her late 20s or mid 30s. Don't think they ever gave any clues other than her profession requiring college experience.
But then, Captain Britain was a little up there in years when he joined Excalibur.

I considered Firehawk, but didn't want to pull her away from Firestorm.
Lilith was possible, but I really wanted to expand the Titans by adding someone who has not been associated with them but would still fit.
Lilith would probably end up on the Fab Five team, first as a supporting member alongside Mal.

[Frontier]

I really want a book like Justice that focuses on the Titans. Like 4-8 issues is all I'm asking.

A book celebrating the Titans franchise would definitely be refreshing after all the stories spent trying to take them apart .

[adrikito]

TEEN TITANS 30 PREVIEW:

https://www.newsarama.com/45152-teen...review.html#s1

[Raijin]

Has the Fearsome Five ever been written as capable and competent? I feel like they are nerfed a lot. In theory, they should be major threats for the Titans.

[Frontier]

TEEN TITANS 30 PREVIEW:

https://www.newsarama.com/45152-teen...review.html#s1

this is a kind of confrontation I wish someone was forcing on the Trinity for Sanctuary.

Has the Fearsome Five ever been written as capable and competent? I feel like they are nerfed a lot. In theory, they should be major threats for the Titans.

Aside from, like, their first appearance and an issue of Bryne's Superman? I don't think so.

[king81992]

Has the Fearsome Five ever been written as capable and competent? I feel like they are nerfed a lot. In theory, they should be major threats for the Titans.

They need actual personalities first.It's incredible how they have personality in the cartoons they've appeared in but come off as generic and bland in the comics.

[Raijin]

this is a kind of confrontation I wish someone was forcing on the Trinity for Sanctuary.

Aside from, like, their first appearance and an issue of Bryne's Superman? I don't think so.

It's a team consisted of a sorcerer, a psionic, a highly strong brute, someone who can transmute matter and someone who's good with tech. It's pretty sad to me. It seems like if your name isn't Deathstroke or Trigon, you're written to be a mere punching bag.

[K7P5V]

I really want a book like Justice that focuses on the Titans. Like 4-8 issues is all I'm asking.

Sounds like a much better idea. Good thinking.

[Frontier]

They need actual personalities first.It's incredible how they have personality in the cartoons they've appeared in but come off as generic and bland in the comics.

The Hive Five were definitely more memorable and dangerous then the Fearsome Five have ever been.

[HandofPrometheus]

Fearsome Five has some deadly feats from Wolfman's run but no one else utilized them to that extent from my knowledge. Mammoth shows up in random comic issues only to be used as fodder. Shimmer gets used as fodder but rarely and she just got killed in some Suicide Squad story. The others just get ignored. And yes they need better personalities.

[Lee Stone]

The Fearsome Five and the Brotherhood of Evil were great villain groups and deserve better recognition today.

[Korath]

Preview for issue 30 of Teen Titans : https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2019/0...he-teen-titans

Tensions are high !

[Frontier]

The Fearsome Five and the Brotherhood of Evil were great villain groups and deserve better recognition today.

Isn't the Brotherhood still ultimately Doom Patrol villains, though?