Namor the Sub-Mariner Appreciation 2019

[ImperiusWrecked]

Meant to post this yesterday, on His Highness' second birthday, but got distracted. This an amazing culinary celebration by a Japanese fan named Athena-I.

She makes the Namor image out of chocolate! And does it almost every year, and I think I've posted some her previous celebrations, but here's a link to all of them.

I love all of Athena-I's Namor celebrations! They also do fan art of Namor!

[ImperiusWrecked]

Chip was asked how does Namor go to the bathroom in the ocean, and I posted the two Namor panels he wrote in Original Sins (2014) The No-Sin Situation which he retweeted. LINK

[Reviresco]

I didn't realize that Chip Zdarsky had done that! LOL!

Reminds me of Evan Dorkin's Haiku.

[nj06]

Hi all. I wanted to ask: what are some of Namor's best speed feats for: 1) flying, 2) swimming, 3) and reaction time/speed?

[ImperiusWrecked]

I am not sure about flying but Namor is the fastest swimmer in the Marvel Universe and it was shown that he can swim as fast as Black Panther's Quinjet. From Black Panther (2009) #1

black panther 2009 1.jpg

[Reviresco]

Hi all. I wanted to ask: what are some of Namor's best speed feats for: 1) flying, 2) swimming, 3) and reaction time/speed?

He's a lot faster on all of those than he often gets credit for.

1) Namor should be one of the best flyers, if not the best, on Earth, because unlike most air breathers, he was born, bred and has spent his entire life in a 3-D environment. While most air breathers are learning to walk, Namor was learning to walk AND to 'fly' underwater. He has innate abilities that allow him to know his body position and the position of other bodies attacking from all directions. He shouldn't be confused by a featureless direction, like "up" or "down." Likewise, he should basically be able to "fly blind," given the poor conditions of sight underwater.

As far as feats in comics ... I'm thinking of the fight with Sunfire from Sub-Mariner 54? Any fight with any Torch.


2) He can swim faster than torpedos. If you look at his first appearance in FF #4, he swims out to Atlantis in what seems like minutes / less than an hour, because Johnny Storm is waiting for him to get back / surface after he drops in the drink. We also have numerous times where Namor swims fast enough to cause whirlpools or make himself into a human drill.


3) Here again, I don't think most writers understand or portray Namor correctly. Try throwing a punch underwater. It's MUCH harder and MUCH slower because of the resistance of water. That's the NORMAL resistance Namor has dealt with all his life. It's the NORMAL resistance Atlanteans have evolved over millenia to deal with. So, when he gets out of the water, where the resistance and weight of the atmosphere is much, much less, his reaction time should be tons faster than he's given credit for.

But we do have feats like Namor catching missiles fired from aircraft. Catching the Surfer's board. And numerous fights where his opponents remark on how much quicker he is than they expected.

[Thor-El]

Saw this poster listed at $20 on Ebay and couldn't pass it since goes usually for $50. Not a fan of the weird coloring but the reproduction of John Buscema's art seems to be really nice and its about 12 x 19 inches. For what I've seen since this series ended other than when McGuinnes draw him in the Red Hulk saga Namor will never look this badass again.

[nj06]

I am not sure about flying but Namor is the fastest swimmer in the Marvel Universe and it was shown that he can swim as fast as Black Panther's Quinjet. From Black Panther (2009) #1

black panther 2009 1.jpg

He's a lot faster on all of those than he often gets credit for.

1) Namor should be one of the best flyers, if not the best, on Earth, because unlike most air breathers, he was born, bred and has spent his entire life in a 3-D environment. While most air breathers are learning to walk, Namor was learning to walk AND to 'fly' underwater. He has innate abilities that allow him to know his body position and the position of other bodies attacking from all directions. He shouldn't be confused by a featureless direction, like "up" or "down." Likewise, he should basically be able to "fly blind," given the poor conditions of sight underwater.

As far as feats in comics ... I'm thinking of the fight with Sunfire from Sub-Mariner 54? Any fight with any Torch.


2) He can swim faster than torpedos. If you look at his first appearance in FF #4, he swims out to Atlantis in what seems like minutes / less than an hour, because Johnny Storm is waiting for him to get back / surface after he drops in the drink. We also have numerous times where Namor swims fast enough to cause whirlpools or make himself into a human drill.


3) Here again, I don't think most writers understand or portray Namor correctly. Try throwing a punch underwater. It's MUCH harder and MUCH slower because of the resistance of water. That's the NORMAL resistance Namor has dealt with all his life. It's the NORMAL resistance Atlanteans have evolved over millenia to deal with. So, when he gets out of the water, where the resistance and weight of the atmosphere is much, much less, his reaction time should be tons faster than he's given credit for.

But we do have feats like Namor catching missiles fired from aircraft. Catching the Surfer's board. And numerous fights where his opponents remark on how much quicker he is than they expected.

Thanks for the responses. I always felt that Namor should be portrayed as being much faster than most people would give him credit for. I would love for future writers to really explore/showcase just how fast Namor is both in and out of the water.

[Reviresco]

Saw this poster listed at $20 on Ebay and couldn't pass it since goes usually for $50. Not a fan of the weird coloring but the reproduction of John Buscema's art seems to be really nice and its about 12 x 19 inches. For what I've seen since this series ended other than when McGuinnes draw him in the Red Hulk saga Namor will never look this badass again.

It is gorgeous! Even with the green tone. I think it was originally part of the FOOM series of posters.


https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...oom-1871026638


No doubt, John Buscema drew an amazing and badass Namor. He's one of my favorite artists. And you can definitely see the influence on McGuinness Namor.

[Reviresco]

Thanks for the responses. I always felt that Namor should be portrayed as being much faster than most people would give him credit for. I would love for future writers to really explore/showcase just how fast Namor is both in and out of the water.

He definitely should. Someday, I'll make a pictorial Feats list. Another project. O_O

[Thor-El]

It is gorgeous! Even with the green tone. I think it was originally part of the FOOM series of posters.


https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...oom-1871026638


No doubt, John Buscema drew an amazing and badass Namor. He's one of my favorite artists. And you can definitely see the influence on McGuinness Namor.

Those Foom posters are all so great. Wish could have them all!

[Thor-El]

Butch Guice posts on his facebook page some of his pencils and final artwork for Invaders. Some of his original panels he redoes when doing final artwork. Very interesting to see those originals, some I even like more than the changes done for final print.

[ImperiusWrecked]

This is so great to see and thanks for sharing Thor-el, I love looking at the art process and Butch's art so far has been great. I'm excited to see what tomorrow brings!

[Reviresco]

this is so great to see and thanks for sharing thor-el, i love looking at the art process and butch's art so far has been great. I'm excited to see what tomorrow brings!

I. Can. Not. Wait!!!!!

[Reviresco]

Butch Guice posts on his facebook page some of his pencils and final artwork for Invaders. Some of his original panels he redoes when doing final artwork. Very interesting to see those originals, some I even like more than the changes done for final print.

Wow. Those are some difference! Usually the original thumbnails are more spontaneous and sometimes have more life, but these seem more about making a different interpretation of the script? Or maybe emphasizing a particular emotion or intent. I mean, I actually like the art on that second row panel better than the finished panel, but I think the finished panel carries the script better. It conveys the sheer exhaustion that besets Namor at that moment.

Really cool stuff. Thanks for posting it, Thor-El!