Victor Von Doom: Doctor Doom Appreciation 2019

[ImperiusWrecked]

Thank you all so much for the recs!

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

Fantastic Four #23 Feb 1964
The Master Plan of Doctor Doom!
Doctor Doom recruits three criminals


to help him destroy the Fantastic Four.

Script by Stan Lee, pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by George Roussos [as George Bell]

[Iron Maiden]

ahhh... The Terrible Trio. Probably Doom's most loyal Henchmen. Haven't seen much of them lately but AFAIK, their last appearance was in the Penance mini series, which was around the time of Civil War.








From what Bull Brogan is saying, it looks like Doom gives out some pretty decent benefits. Maybe Bull Brogan is living on a pension in Latveria.

[Ravin' Ray]

Some sad news:

Joseph Sirola, Fantastic Four's First TV Doctor Doom, Passes Away



Here is Sirola from the original Hollywood Reporter article.

[From The Shadows]

If this cover didn't make you see the might that is Doom I don't know what would.



Bow to Doom!

[Iron Maiden]

One of my favorites!

[K7P5V]

One of my favorites!

Among my favorites as well. Secret Wars (1984) is an all-time Marvel classic.

[Iron Maiden]

This is a bit of good news....looks like Doombot will be repaired. Sadly, this is artist Kris Anka's last issue. I loved his makeover of Doombot with a retro-looking style in men's suits.

from Runaways #18

[Reviresco]

Happy Valentine's Day!

From someone on tumblr. Sadly, I don't have the creators name. But so very SVTU!

[The Overlord]

Here's an interesting question, should Doom go back to being an FF villain or should he be the more heroic character we saw in the Iron man comics?

I am asking this because I do think the FF's rogues gallery in general, needs a massive revamp and I wonder if Doom leaving the villain game might have these other villains to step their game, because lets face it, a lot of the FF villains have not upped their game that much since the 60s and now seem like totally left behind by the FF, that its hard to see them as real threats, mainly because, lets face it, Doom got the vast majority of the cool moments and complex character moments, which makes sense, Stan and Jack did make him the big bad guy of the FF, so other writers going along with that is natural. But should there be a change in the status quo, Doom leaves villainy behind and these other villains step up or should Doom be a villain and the writers try to keep Doom as the FF's main threat, but give these other villains more to do be compelling villains?

[SuperiorIronman]

Here's an interesting question, should Doom go back to being an FF villain or should he be the more heroic character we saw in the Iron man comics?

I am asking this because I do think the FF's rogues gallery in general, needs a massive revamp and I wonder if Doom leaving the villain game might have these other villains to step their game, because lets face it, a lot of the FF villains have not upped their game that much since the 60s and now seem like totally left behind by the FF, that its hard to see them as real threats, mainly because, lets face it, Doom got the vast majority of the cool moments and complex character moments, which makes sense, Stan and Jack did make him the big bad guy of the FF, so other writers going along with that is natural. But should there be a change in the status quo, Doom leaves villainy behind and these other villains step up or should Doom be a villain and the writers try to keep Doom as the FF's main threat, but give these other villains more to do be compelling villains?

Doom absolutely should stay out of Fantastic Four. It always comes back to the dick raising contest with Reed and we've moved past that.

Victor became god and had his little fight with Reed. What more do we really have to see with him that we haven't already as a villain? Been there done that. It's about time that Victor can go off and do something else because the Fantastic Four isn't about Doctor Doom. He's just too interesting of a character that he derails what's happening in Fantastic Four. He's essentially too good for it at this point and should vacate the title so we can focus on other villains.

[Iron Maiden]

I agree about Doom staying out of the Fantastic Four for a while after this arc. I don't care much for the advance solicitation where in the last issue of this arc, something cruel occurs:

FF #9 (April 24th)
"WHAT PRICE VICTORY?"
• One cruel act will forever change the relationship between the Fantastic Four and Victor Von Doom.
• The fate of Latveria and of the world and the balance of Cosmic Power in the Universe all rests on one decision!
• All will be revealed in the terrifying final chapter of "Herald of Doom"!
Rated T

I hope Slott hasn't introduced this new character Victorious only to have her be some kind of sacrificial lamb so that Doom returns to super-villain stuff. I was hoping that would have been the whole point of the end of Secret Wars and then the follow up with Infamous Iron Man was that their was a sort of epiphany for Victor and the path he chose for himself.

Also, will we ever know what's going on with Amara and the baby? I wasn't all that crazy about that but now that it's out there, are they relying on the readers to just forget about it or will it ever be dealt with?

[ImperiusWrecked]

I agree about Doom staying out of the Fantastic Four for a while after this arc. I don't care much for the advance solicitation where in the last issue of this arc, something cruel occurs:

FF #9 (April 24th)
"WHAT PRICE VICTORY?"
• One cruel act will forever change the relationship between the Fantastic Four and Victor Von Doom.
• The fate of Latveria and of the world and the balance of Cosmic Power in the Universe all rests on one decision!
• All will be revealed in the terrifying final chapter of "Herald of Doom"!
Rated T

I hope Slott hasn't introduced this new character Victorious only to have her be some kind of sacrificial lamb so that Doom returns to super-villain stuff. I was hoping that would have been the whole point of the end of Secret Wars and then the follow up with Infamous Iron Man was that their was a sort of epiphany for Victor and the path he chose for himself.

Also, will we ever know what's going on with Amara and the baby? I wasn't all that crazy about that but now that it's out there, are the relying on the readers to just forget about it or will it ever be dealt with?

I am waiting to know what they plan to do with that.
However yeah, I would rather Victor stay out of the FF for a bit, just have him do his own thing and please can we get Kristoff back?

[SuperiorIronman]

You know, that's just it. Doom didn't have to go back in the toy-box.

Kristoff could've taken over, and given how in some ways he'd be inexperienced compared to Victor but has his capabilities, we'd have the chance to see a reinvigorated take on the character. Younger, meaner, maybe even a touch more compassionate with the same sort of drive to protect Latveria in Victor's absence. And because he might not have the same mystical prowess, that can lead to some interesting stories in his attempts with things getting out of hand. One possible example of this is combining his Doom persona with something like his House of M power-set. Maybe in combat acting something like Scorpion from Mortal Kombat, a bit more hands on and peels back the armor to reveal a fiery demonic form underneath.

You also had Bendis setting up there being multiple Doombots active in Latveria and thanks to Doombot in Avengers A.I we do know that they can develop on their own. Meaning we could've played up the political angle similarly to the blob except with robots. The green menace that can potentially hide in plain sight looking to conquer America, and adds to the paranoia with whatever Marvel does with the Skrulls for Captain Marvel synergy.

There was also the Galactus-Doom from Marvel Two in One. Sure he's dead, but he can hop bodies, so what if he stealthily hitched a ride back to 616 on our heroes and began body hopping to find a suitable replacement body to match the power he held as Galactus?

And then you also have Victorious whom is a Latverian patriot and might be able to figure something out in how to give herself powers thanks to magic or Victor's left over equipment. She wants Victor back so what if he said no? She'd do it herself and try to lead Latveria back to a "golden age".

We just didn't need him back so soon honestly

[Snoop Dogg]

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