Madelyne Pryor: Red Queen Appreciation 2019

[Retcon]

Wasn’t a joke. An observation. I should of said Alex can say that he technically knows what Jean looks like naked.
I also hate this current atmosphere.
I always thaught Maddie was what Jean could be if she just stopped being a prude. Isn’t that one of the reasons Scotty turned to Emma. He wanted kinky sex with Jean.

[JudicatorPrime]

Wasn’t a joke. An observation. I should of said Alex can say that he technically knows what Jean looks like naked.

Technically, still incorrect. In order to know what Jean looks like, he had to have seen Jean. Fascimiles don't count. Not even Dark Phoenix. If it did, pretty much everyone could say that they've seen Jean naked. Remember this scene? You don't see them on panel, but off to the side in a psionic stasis field was Beast, Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, and Colossus. Jean was in her birthday suit and Scott, being the horn dog that he is, didn't even bother to cover her before getting a kiss.

I always thaught Maddie was what Jean could be if she just stopped being a prude. Isn’t that one of the reasons Scotty turned to Emma. He wanted kinky sex with Jean.

Scott slept with the Chaos Bringer. If Scott is trying to find that same kind of racy passion again, my guess would be the memory of that is what's driving him. He'd already been intimate with the version of Jean that he wanted. And since DP was an almost exact psionic copy of Jean, it's a safe bet that anything Chaos Bringer enjoys doing, Jean enjoys doing. Emma can't hold a candle to that. Maddy could and probably gave Scott the best mindf---, er, encounter of his life.

I also hate this current atmosphere.

Hopefully, as a society we'll grow as a result. But these things are cyclical. Indeed, one quick browse through any of the major social media websites and you'll see plenty of women exercising their choice to dress however racy they like, free of the dictates of a still far too chauvinist society. It's funny how human nature works. It's kind of like all of the younger generation of African American kids who toss around the N-word like it's a badge of honor. Once you acknowledge the rules of respect and comity, people often indulge in the very behavior of their own volition that they deemed inappropriate nolens volens.

[Retcon]

I stand corrected.

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Uncanny X-Men #243 Apr 1989
Inferno: Part 6 of 7 - "Ashes!" Guest-starring X-Factor.
Story continued from X-Factor #38...

On top of the Empire State Building, the X-Men mourn for Madelyne Pryor and talk about everything that happened during Inferno.
Suddenly Jean Grey cries out. She forms a telekinetic bubble around herself and lets nobody in.
Psylocke uses her telepathy to bring herself, Cyclops, Storm, and Wolverine inside Jean's mind.
There they are at the Blue Area of the moon and witness the last instants before Phoenix sacrificed herself.
She perishes shouting Scott's name. The X-Men see that her energy does not dissipate, but rises towards earth.
Cyclops wonders how Jean knows of these events since she is in suspended animation at Jamaica Bay at the time.
Suddenly a large fist appears and smashes the memory. It is Sinister.
Psylocke tells the others that if he destroys all memories, Jean's soul and mind will be completely obliterated.
The X-Men float through more shards of memories, which are clearly Madelyne's.

In the center, they find Jean's memories loosely assembled around an image of the mansion, which is guarded by a redheaded figure.
As the X-Men approach she looks like the Goblin Queen and fires a blast. She then turns into Jean as Marvel Girl and asks for forgiveness.
Betsy understands that Jean's condition is a result of trying to integrate two powerful individual psyches.
Storm suggests to bring Rogue into the mindscape too, since she faces a similar effect each time she uses her powers,
but Psylocke discovers that an outside force blocks her from going outside of Jean's mind.
A huge image of Sinister appears and he destroys another memory shard. The X-Men try to fight him, but physical powers are useless.
Only Betsy's telepathy stands a chance and she succeeds in building a barrier, keeping Sinister at bay.
The others try to talk some sense into Madelyne's personality, who gained the upper hand again.
Both Scott and Logan fail. She refuses to help and is glad that the X-Men might die along with her.

Storm realizes that this isn't Madelyne at all, it is Jean who is about to give up;
she was terrified about the Phoenix force's offer and denied it with her every being.
The results were Dark Phoenix and the Goblyn Queen. Maybe it would be better if things ended right now.
Psylocke's shield breaks and Sinister gets through again.
He heard the last part of Jean's fears and offers her to break the terrible cycle by
stripping her of memories and identity that have caused nothing but pain. Madelyne refuses.

She changes into Dark Phoenix, then into Jean and tells him that this is her mind,
her soul, her life and she means to keep them herself and she blocks Sinister out.

In Xavier's mansion, which he uses as a hideout, Sinister tells Malice to alert the others, since the X-Men are on their way.
Jean learned of his location during their final battle for her mind. The X-Men and X-Factor have split up into smaller teams.
The first, consisting of Jean, Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine and Archangel enter the mansion through Storm's former attic.
Psylocke and Rogue use the hangar bay as their way in.
Meanwhile Beast and Longshot brought Mr. And Mrs. Grey and baby Christopher to the X-Factor ship.
They argue which one stays behind to guard the Greys and who may go to help to fight Sinister.
The remaining mutants, Colossus, Iceman, Havok and Dazzler, approach the mansion through the Morlock tunnels beneath the Xavier estate.
They cover forty miles without a problem, but right before the mansion, they run into a demon-transformed Blockbuster.
He is faster and stronger than they remember and knocks Colossus and Iceman out before they can do anything.
In the narrow tunnels, Dazzler shoots a full force laser beam, but she has no effect.
Blockbuster grabs her, but suddenly Havok unleashes a plasma beam and kills him. Alison wonders,
because he was always afraid of doing that. Alex replies that Inferno changed him.
In the hangar bay Sabretooth sneaks up on Betsy and slams her into the ground.
He wants to rip her throat, but Psylocke reaches into his animalistic mind and stops him in mid-air and fries his mind.
Upstairs in the mansion, the first group discovers that Sinister has searched
through everything, personal and private rooms, even the Professor's office.
While they are most distracted Malice strikes and hurls metallic debris around and Jean and Ororo quickly defeat her.

The X-Men gather in the main room and start to interrogate Polaris/Malice, who is held in one of Jean's telekinetic fields.
She refuses to reveal any information about Sinister. Storm orders Psylocke to mind-probe her
and then try to separate the two women, but Malice says that would surely kill her because the bonding is permanent.
She turns to Havok, claiming that she still loves him, and Alex asks her to prove it by giving them the needed information.
The mansion explodes, all lie around unconscious. The only one who is unhurt is Malice.
Ironically the field that held her shielded her from the impact.
Sinister comes out of hiding and pulls Jean from the debris, now he has the original to tamper with
and he orders Malice to kill the other members of the X-Men and X-Factor as Longshot arrives on the scene to stop them.

Story by Chris Claremont. Art by Marc Silvestri and Hilary Barta.

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X-Factor #39 Apr 1989
Inferno! Guest-starring the X-Men. Part 7 of 7 - "Ashes to Ashes!"
Continued from Uncanny X-Men #243...

Mr. Sinister and the Malice controlled Polaris stand in the ruins of the X-Mansion.
The members of the X-Men and X-Factor defeated and Marvel Girl his captive.
The only person standing in their way is Longshot, who despite his doubts, is able to create
a distraction with his luck powers long enough for the Beast to recover and try to fight back.
This in turn allows Cyclops to revive. Scott easily defeats Polaris and tries to turn his powers against Sinister.
However Sinister has some form of control over him. When Rogue and Psylocke revive and attempt to fight Mr. Sinister,
Betsy's mental attack is fended off, and when Rogue attempts to absorb his mind and powers, Sinister actually takes full control of her body.

During this brief possession, Cyclops sees Sinister standing over him and recalls a lost memory from his youth,
where Mr. Sinister experimented on him as a young body. As Polaris tricks Havok into "helping" her only to bind him,

Sinister explains that he had been manipulating Cyclops from the start. That he was in charge at the orphanage

and stifled Scott's early powers and implanted false memories. As Havok is binded in metal by Polaris,
he warns her that Inferno has changed him and that he is no longer afraid of using his powers.
Sinister explains that he also attempted to manipulate Jean Grey knowing that their combined DNA would create the ultimate mutant.
However when Jean had seemingly died, he instead cloned Madelyne from Jean's DNA in order to fullfill this purpose.
As Scott struggles to free himself, Colossus attempts to attack and is similarly held at bay by Polaris.

As Mr. Sinister continues to explain how he manipulated Scott at a young age, Psylocke establishes a psylink between
the scattered members of the X-Men and X-Factor, and they begin to formulate a counter attack plan.
They note that Sinister appears to be keeping Scott under his power, as though he is afraid of Scott's powers,
and figure that might be the key to defeating Mr. Sinister. Havok tells the others to let him deal with Scott and they launch their attack.
As the X-Men pile on Mr. Sinister, Storm uses her wind powers to sweep up Marvel Girl and uses rain to revive her
as the others continue to pound Mr. Sinister with their mutant abilities -- however none seem to have an effect.

As the X-Men fight on, Sabretooth comes out of the rubble of the X-Mansion
prompting Wolverine to deal with him by impaling his rival with his claws.
Havok goes to his brother and while taunting him for being weak begins to bombard Scott
with his atomic energy powers, charging Scott up with a massive amount of energy.
Sinister manages to collect Marvel Girl back and begins kissing her, the final thing to push Scott over the edge.
When the Beast pulls Marvel Girl to safety, Scott breaks through the mental barriers
and manages to blast Sinister with a full power optic blast, seemingly destroying his enemy.

In the aftermath of the battle, Alex reports that Polaris escaped and he and Scott make amends.
With the battle over, the X-Men depart from X-Factors company, telling Scott that they will
continue to fight Xavier's dreams in their own way and the two groups part as friends.
Left in the rubble of Xavier's school Scott once more reflects on how he let his dead wife down so badly.
However they all agree that they managed to save young Christopher and they will be committed to raising him together.

Story by Louise Simonson. Art by Walter Simonson and Al Milgrom.

[JudicatorPrime]

Hmmm... I wonder.

Madelyne as the X-men's Melisandre. Could it work?

[Retcon]

Scott is a lonely guys these days. Stranger things have happened.

[Bl00dwerK]

Can y'all imagine the general audience trying to follow Maddie's story across a series of live-action films? I'm not even sure they'd attempt it in today's cultural climate.

[Havok83]

Can y'all imagine the general audience trying to follow Maddie's story across a series of live-action films? I'm not even sure they'd attempt it in today's cultural climate.

they wont bc it was unnecessarily complicated and didnt make much sense.

[JudicatorPrime]

Can y'all imagine the general audience trying to follow Maddie's story across a series of live-action films? I'm not even sure they'd attempt it in today's cultural climate.

I could see them doing an Inferno storyline. But most of Maddy's story would likely be reworked in the MCU. I honestly wouldn't complain if they did it right.

[Omega Alpha]

It won't happen. Just too convoluted. If they want a mom for Cable, they'll use Jean, and if they want an alternate love interest for Scott, they'll use Emma.

[Havok83]

It won't happen. Just too convoluted. If they want a mom for Cable, they'll use Jean, and if they want an alternate love interest for Scott, they'll use Emma.

and if they do Inferno, they'll simply use Illyana or rework someone else like Scarlet Witch as the conduit to hell.

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Uncanny X-Men #181 May 1984
"Tokyo Story!"
Story follows the events of Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #12...

Professor X, Wolverine, Colossus, Rogue, Storm and Lockheed are all teleported
back to Earth following their ordeal on Battleworld with the Beyonder.
Along with them was a small dragon companion that had befriended Lockheed.
Upon their arrival, the dragon would grow to a massive size and fly off, while the X-Men would fall to the ground.
Learning that they have been teleported to Japan, they also learn of Lockheed's friend becoming a massive creature.

Learning that they have been gone for over a week, the Professor sends Rogue to America to check on the fate of Doug Ramsey and Kitty Pryde,
as well as make sure that the New Mutants and Cyclops are okay while they deal with the threat of the dragon they brought back with them.

As the dragon begins wrecking Tokyo, the Japanese mobilizes their military to deal with the threat.
While reports are coming in Mariko Yoshida and her cousin Sunfire learn
that the X-Men, and Wolverine, are in Japan as well to combat the creature.
The X-Men catch up with the monster and as Storm keeps it occupied, the others rescue any civilians that get in the way of danger.
Soon, Sunfire and the military arrive to deal with the monster.
However, as they battle the creature the X-Men note that their weapons have little effect on them.

Meanwhile, at the Beachcomber Hotel in Tahiti, Cyclops appears before a grief stricken Madelyne.
She is upset that he vanished out of her arms and was missing for a whole week while on their honeymoon.

However, despite this, Scott manages to calm her down and the newly weds make up.

As the battle rages on in Japan, Storm unleashes her full fury on the creature.
While down below, some wreckage lands on the Professor's legs making him panic about the potential of losing his ability to walk.
He is rescued by Colossus, while Wolverine goes off looking for others. He comes across a dying woman and her daughter Amiko.
The woman asks Wolverine to look after her, and Logan vows to keep care of the young orphaned girl.

Meanwhile, Sunfire and Storm are knocked out by the dragon and as the creature is about to kill them, Lockheed confronts it.
Blowing fire in it's face wounds the giant dragon emotionally and it flies away with Lockheed following behind, yelling at it.
Suddenly, the creature kills itself in a massive energy burst.
In the aftermath of the battle, the X-Men realize that the creature was attempting to build a nest for itself
and Lockheed to live in together and that when Lockheed rejected the creature it committed suicide.

While in Washington D.C., Senator Robert Kelly attempts to have
legislation passed for his new Mutant Control Act supported by his colleagues.
Meeting with Senator Phillip, Kelly pressures him to support the bill.
Phillip refuses, believing that this is tantamount to legalizing slavery
and vows to do everything in his power to prevent the bill from coming into law.
He tells his colleague that he hopes that trying to motion this bill will not cause irreversible damage.

NOTE: first appearance of Amiko.

Story by Chris Claremont. Art by John Romita, Jr. and Dan Green.

[Decoy]

That’s right.......Madelyn is fully revived nowadays, but where’s she been? She didn’t show up during the Phoenix Resurrection affair, or Extermination, and she’s been oddly quiet in lieu of Dissembled......it’s almost as if she had some hand in Nate Grey’s Attack........nah......that would be reaching.......or is it? Time will tell (either that or they forgot she’s back......)

[Decoy]

So, who would try to redeem Madelyn writer wise? And how? As far as many in then know are aware, she was a clone that rapidly descended into madness in her rage.........however if her forerunner can be retconned as to never had wiped out a populated star system and a Shi’ar Cruise, due to the Phoenix taking her identit......., if Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man, etc could have a redemption story, who’s to say Madelyn can’t have one.......if a writer can think of a way to reintroduce her as a ally/ hero, not as a sometimes unstable super villain ex she’s been.....perhaps if some writer also moves her on from the whole Summers Family Crap, as well as Sinister....... has her find something that won’t eventually worsen her mental state (assuming she hasn’t by now found some degree of normalcy and happiness that doesn’t involve trying to get revenge on her ex, her ex’s friends, the woman she was cloned from who her ex still loved, her kid, etc.......)