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    I’d rather Bunn not touch too much and just write the tie in. Let Cates do his thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoop Dogg View Post
    I would actually like that. I'd like it even more if he snuck in Mania, though...
    This, exactly. That said, Eddie Brock's backstory as fleshed out by Donny Cates, the origin behind his obsession with "innocents," was quite painful to read. Good painful, though.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    how many issues is Bunn doing? Will be skipping those.

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    Wow! Cates is crafting a wonderful story. I’ve never cared much for Venom outside of Spider-Man, but I’m all in on this series. His back story was heart breaking!
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    I feel bad for Dylan. Eddie is cool and all, but he's so pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    I feel bad for Dylan. Eddie is cool and all, but he's so pathetic.
    Same. Having to live with a father like Carl Brock. No wonder Eddie turned out the way he did. And Dylan . . . hopefully there's a happier ending for him, too.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Venom/Brock has always been a favorite of mine and I'm glad to see his current series being received so well. I definitely have some catching up to do.
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    So, my usual question: How much background reading does a Venom virgin need to do, in order to follow the story and grock the characters in the Cates run?

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    Honestly, if you know the basics of his origins, Carnage and bits and pieces of characters like Agent Venom, you're good to go. If you have the money, you can check out the Spider-Man vs Venom omnibus and the two Venomomnibus collections. If you want more good stuff, check out the two Rick Remender volumes and the Cullen Bunn volumes. But by and large, if you have a basic understanding of his history, you can jump into the series with little effort. If there is any Venom story I would recommend, it would be the Lethal Protector miniseries (the 1993 story, not the newer story with Kraven), as it does give some good background info about Eddie's life and is quite relevant to what's currently going on in the Cates run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohei72 View Post
    So, my usual question: How much background reading does a Venom virgin need to do, in order to follow the story and grock the characters in the Cates run?
    I came in knowing very little. I knew about Venom, Carnage and Toxin. I knew of Agent Venom and that Bendis named the symbiotic as Klyntar. That was it.
    It’s very accessible.

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    Thanks for the responses, comrades. Honestly, I know almost nothing beyond the basic origins (Spidey's alien suit turns out to be a scary monster, blah blah). But I just succumbed to the hype and have Cates's first TPB sitting right here, checked out from the library. So I guess I'll plunge in and it sounds like I'll be okay. Your recommended reading material is available at the library, so I'll give that a look at some point, probably.

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    The first TPB of Venom by Donny Cates and Ryan Stegman is awesome.
    Epic storyline that looks to me to not contratict nothing of the continuity of the symbiote but add´s quite much more nuances going to the ancient past of the Marvel Universe.
    Interesting,because Venom stories have been quite different,story wise speaking.
    Art wise the illustrations by Ryan Stegman are great as well.

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    Well, finished the first trade last night, and it was... okay. Stegman's art is stunning, of course, but I found Cates's script competently pedestrian. More tenth-hand H.P. Lovecraft, which has been a commonplace trope in comics for a long time now, mixed with the Hulk, and all presented in a very monotonously humorless way. (Now that I think about it, Al Ewing's Immortal Hulk is in the middle of a story that strikes me as extremely similar, but executed with more tonal variety and psychological depth.)

    I enjoyed it enough that I didn't feel my time was wasted (mostly thanks to Stegman), but I don't think I'll start picking up the monthlies. That's a pretty high bar, given how expensive a hobby this is. I'd look out for the next TPB in the library. I'd be happy to be persuaded otherwise and give it a pull-list trial run, though, if somebody were to tell me the subsequent issues take a different direction and have something interesting-sounding going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohei72 View Post
    Well, finished the first trade last night, and it was... okay. Stegman's art is stunning, of course, but I found Cates's script competently pedestrian. More tenth-hand H.P. Lovecraft, which has been a commonplace trope in comics for a long time now, mixed with the Hulk, and all presented in a very monotonously humorless way. (Now that I think about it, Al Ewing's Immortal Hulk is in the middle of a story that strikes me as extremely similar, but executed with more tonal variety and psychological depth.)

    I enjoyed it enough that I didn't feel my time was wasted (mostly thanks to Stegman), but I don't think I'll start picking up the monthlies. That's a pretty high bar, given how expensive a hobby this is. I'd look out for the next TPB in the library. I'd be happy to be persuaded otherwise and give it a pull-list trial run, though, if somebody were to tell me the subsequent issues take a different direction and have something interesting-sounding going on.
    The Abyss is quite different, as the emphasis is on Brock's history and origins, and the symbiote takes something of a backseat. It does a very good job of combining and expanding upon the Lethal Protector and Dark Origin miniseries'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Mask View Post
    The Abyss is quite different, as the emphasis is on Brock's history and origins, and the symbiote takes something of a backseat. It does a very good job of combining and expanding upon the Lethal Protector and Dark Origin miniseries'.
    Hm, sounds potentially promising. Maybe I'll trade-wait it.

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