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    Quote Originally Posted by Pohzee View Post
    YJ is a surprisingly pessimistic and militaristic version of the DC universe for how loved it is, IMO.
    If you think this show is "pessimistic and milataristic" I wonder what you think of the comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHRNIHAL View Post
    Didn't elongated man quit the league with batman?How he was in space?
    That was Plastic Man. Their both stretchy guys but Plastic Mans powers extend far beyond the reach of Elongated's who isn't actually a meta and uses a chemical extract to temporarily gain his elactisity.. however Elongated Man is a near Batman level detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    If you think this show is "pessimistic and milataristic" I wonder what you think of the comics.
    In the YJ cartoon, the central conflict is described as a war by the characters and essentially ropes all the heroes and villains into two armies locked in a Cold War. No where in the comics are either the heroes or villains so coordinated with their operations or espionage. The heroes use tactical lingo dividing up into alpha, beta, gamma squads and run formations.

    One of the central themes of the show is the heroes being forced to sacrifice their integrity and innocence in order to combat the overwhelming forces of evil. All of the central cast is hurt by their own lies and deception and are still shattered by the loss of Wally two years ago.

    In the comics, they’ll just kill someone to shock readers and move on.
    It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pohzee View Post
    In the YJ cartoon, the central conflict is described as a war by the characters and essentially ropes all the heroes and villains into two armies locked in a Cold War. No where in the comics are either the heroes or villains so coordinated with their operations or espionage. The heroes use tactical lingo dividing up into alpha, beta, gamma squads and run formations.

    One of the central themes of the show is the heroes being forced to sacrifice their integrity and innocence in order to combat the overwhelming forces of evil. All of the central cast is hurt by their own lies and deception and are still shattered by the loss of Wally two years ago.

    In the comics, they’ll just kill someone to shock readers and move on.
    Batman alone has had two different covert ops teams and the Justice League has regularly been treated as amd referred to as an army.

    The comics feature murder, torture and retcons of rape or heroic characters haven been evil all along. YJ has always been of the position that secrets and lies are a bad thing and will blow up in your face. The heroes have always been at their most successful when they trusted each other. By contrast, the villains' deception is now screwing them over.

    And if mourning a friend who died while not letting it stop you is pessimistic I don't know what you think optimism is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironmonk View Post
    Anyone else notice that little nod with the doorman's name? I find it fitting with the characters they're using. spoilers:
    Kirby Jacob = Jack Kirby
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    I think the VA was even doing an impression of his voice.

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    edit: nevermind newsrama reported old news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkcrusade25 View Post
    edit: nevermind newsrama reported old news.
    I saw that too and hoped they had delayed it again to fix Tim's crappy costume.
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    I wouldn't mind if they created a Wonder Girl to be apart of Jon/Damian's generation. Just curious to see what they come up with.

    I don't mind Vixen being deaged like another poster, but I'm not sure if I want her to be a Jon/Damian contemporary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they created a Wonder Girl to be apart of Jon/Damian's generation. Just curious to see what they come up with. I don't mind Vixen being deaged like another poster, but I'm not sure if I want her to be a Jon/Damian contemporary.
    No I agree that that would be at least a step too far. I could see the cartoon version of her being Tim's age, but not a comtemporary of Damian's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they created a Wonder Girl to be apart of Jon/Damian's generation. Just curious to see what they come up with.

    I don't mind Vixen being deaged like another poster, but I'm not sure if I want her to be a Jon/Damian contemporary.
    Same. Could do a version of Lyta Trevor, and have Diana and Steve make her from clay. But, just a thought.

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