Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
It would appear that fans have their special bias tinted googles on when we read comics. Characters get dumbed down around tim especially Dick and Jason.
At least in Dicks case I that hi getting dumbed down had more to do with Barbara as Oracle and far less with Tim.

I Jason's case he get generally not much opportunity to shine if he get's paired up with another Batfamily member, and some writers write him like an idiot regardless if Tim is arround or not.