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    Uncanny X-Men #180 Apr 1984
    "Whose Life Is It, Anyway?"
    After months of practice, Charles Xavier has managed to beat the psychosomatic
    feedback his mental powers had created preventing him from walking in his new body.
    He decides to enjoy this newly acquired ability to playing basket ball.
    However, his game is ended when he's struck by yet another powerful
    mental scan and wonders what the alien force causing it could be.

    He is then visited by Storm who has come with her concerns over her lack of control
    over her powers, and her new more savage attitude and it's effects on Kitty.
    She wonders if she is going insane. Probing her mind, the Professor reveals that there is nothing wrong with her mentally.
    He points out that he doesn't know what's causing her change in personality and ethically
    cannot bring himself to alter her mind with his powers as it could do more harm than good.

    Elsewhere in Salem Center, Kitty Pryde is out at the arcade with her friend Doug Ramsey playing in an arcade.
    after ranking the top score the game fries and the two are kicked out by the owner,
    telling them they are not welcome back as they hog the machine for hours and hardly spend any quarters.
    Going for lunch, Kitty confides in Doug about her feelings about Storm.
    She explains that with all her changes, the woman she cared for like a sister
    has become someone who frightens her and she doesn't know what to do.

    Doug pledges to be her friend as well, and then tells her that he has an
    appointment at the Massachusetts Academy and asks Kitty about her time there.
    Kitty explains that she hated it there, however secretly recalls that it was run by the White Queen of the Hellfire Club.
    She wonders if her friend Doug is a target of the X-Men's enemy and wonders what she can do about it.

    Back at Professor Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters, Colossus spends time recovering from his injuries by chopping trees on the property.
    He is trying to come to terms with his feelings over Kitty. When Wolverine comes and forces him to talk about them,
    Colossus worries about their future given how she almost gave herself to the Morlocks and her new friendship with Doug Ramsey.
    He admits that he is insecure that Doug is everything Kitty could want and fears that he might lose her.
    Logan tells him that if he thinks that, then he's lost her already.

    Storm has traveled to the Bronx Botanical Garden to spend some time enjoying the plants in the greenhouse.
    She comes upon a group of muggers attempting to rob an old couple and confronts them.
    When they attempt to stab Storm with knives, she unleashes her powers on them, sending them fleeing.
    When she goes to help the elderly couple, they are frightened by her mutant nature.
    She is then called back to the X-Mansion where she and the other X-Men
    are briefed about Doug Ramsey's invitation to the Massachusetts Academy.
    With the Hellfire Club currently in disarray and the White Queen seemingly in
    a coma, Charles agrees to let Kitty accompany Doug to find out if he is at risk.

    During the conversation, Xavier reveals that Doug is really a mutant that has language translation powers which surprises everyone.

    After the meeting, Kitty is walking through the halls of the mansion when she is swept up a wind into the sky by Storm.
    Up in the air the two come to terms with their feelings about Storm's recent changes in personality and style.
    Ororo explains to Kitty that she is going through changes that frighten her and that she needs to go through them to find out who she really is.
    After some conversation about the changes, Kitty and Storm promise to be there for each other no matter what.

    A week later, Kitty and Doug are boarding a plane to Massachusetts, and Kitty's mind has already gone to another worry:
    the aloof behavior of Peter making her wonder if there is anything wrong with him. As she boards the plane with Doug,

    her worries change when they are greeted on the plane by the White Queen. When Kitty tries to alert the Professor telepathically,
    she cannot reach him as at that very moment, the Professor, Colossus, Wolverine and Storm are drawn to Central Park.
    There a giant construct has appeared in the location and as they all approach it they are teleported away to a far off place....

    The fate of the X-Men continues in Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #1....

    Story by Chris Claremont. Art by John Romita, Jr., Bob Wiacek and Dan Green.
    Last edited by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear; 04-21-2019 at 12:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    Uncanny X-Men #180 Apr 1984
    "Whose Life Is It, Anyway?"
    After months of practice, Charles Xavier has managed to beat the psychosomatic
    feedback his mental powers had created preventing him from walking in his new body.
    He decides to enjoy this newly acquired ability to playing basket ball.
    However, his game is ended when he's struck by yet another powerful
    mental scan and wonders what the alien force causing it could be.

    He is then visited by Storm who has come with her concerns over her lack of control
    over her powers, and her new more savage attitude and it's effects on Kitty.
    She wonders if she is going insane. Probing her mind, the Professor reveals that there is nothing wrong with her mentally.
    He points out that he doesn't know what's causing her change in personality and ethically
    cannot bring himself to alter her mind with his powers as it could do more harm than good.

    Elsewhere in Salem Center, Kitty Pryde is out at the arcade with her friend Doug Ramsey playing in an arcade.
    after ranking the top score the game fries and the two are kicked out by the owner,
    telling them they are not welcome back as they hog the machine for hours and hardly spend any quarters.
    Going for lunch, Kitty confides in Doug about her feelings about Storm.
    She explains that with all her changes, the woman she cared for like a sister
    has become someone who frightens her and she doesn't know what to do.

    Doug pledges to be her friend as well, and then tells her that he has an
    appointment at the Massachusetts Academy and asks Kitty about her time there.
    Kitty explains that she hated it there, however secretly recalls that it was run by the White Queen of the Hellfire Club.
    She wonders if her friend Doug is a target of the X-Men's enemy and wonders what she can do about it.

    Back at Professor Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters, Colossus spends time recovering from his injuries by chopping trees on the property.
    He is trying to come to terms with his feelings over Kitty. When Wolverine comes and forces him to talk about them,
    Colossus worries about their future given how she almost gave herself to the Morlocks and her new friendship with Doug Ramsey.
    He admits that he is insecure that Doug is everything Kitty could want and fears that he might lose her.
    Logan tells him that if he thinks that, then he's lost her already.

    Storm has traveled to the Bronx Botanical Garden to spend some time enjoying the plants in the greenhouse.
    She comes upon a group of muggers attempting to rob an old couple and confronts them.
    When they attempt to stab Storm with knives, she unleashes her powers on them, sending them fleeing.
    When she goes to help the elderly couple, they are frightened by her mutant nature.
    She is then called back to the X-Mansion where she and the other X-Men
    are briefed about Doug Ramsey's invitation to the Massachusetts Academy.
    With the Hellfire Club currently in disarray and the White Queen seemingly in
    a coma, Charles agrees to let Kitty accompany Doug to find out if he is at risk.

    During the conversation, Xavier reveals that Doug is really a mutant that has language translation powers which surprises everyone.

    After the meeting, Kitty is walking through the halls of the mansion when she is swept up a wind into the sky by Storm.
    Up in the air the two come to terms with their feelings about Storm's recent changes in personality and style.
    Ororo explains to Kitty that she is going through changes that frighten her and that she needs to go through them to find out who she really is.
    After some conversation about the changes, Kitty and Storm promise to be there for each other no matter what.

    A week later, Kitty and Doug are boarding a plane to Massachusetts, and Kitty's mind has already gone to another worry:
    the aloof behavior of Peter making her wonder if there is anything wrong with him. As she boards the plane with Doug,

    her worries change when they are greeted on the plane by the White Queen. When Kitty tries to alert the Professor telepathically,
    she cannot reach him as at that very moment, the Professor, Colossus, Wolverine and Storm are drawn to Central Park.
    There a giant construct has appeared in the location and as they all approach it they are teleported away to a far off place....

    The fate of the X-Men continues in Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #1....

    Story by Chris Claremont. Art by John Romita, Jr., Bob Wiacek and Dan Green.
    French cover of the next episode:
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugiwara View Post
    They should have gone with that.
    Attachment 76155

    Wolfsbane is still bland as ****, but Karma, Mirage, Sunspot and Magma are great.
    Magik has her best costume ever. Hoods are unpractical, but nobody should care about "practical" with super hero costumes.
    Cannonball would have been ok if it wasn't for the helmet.
    Cypher's costume sucks, but he should have kept the bulletproof vest.
    Karma’s was the best. I hope one day she goes back to a modified version of it.

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    By the way, Dani got her powers back.

    But what actually is her powers with this bow and arrow?

    Her original power was getting scary illusion from the mind.
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    What do you guys think if the Professor forced Kitty to join the New Mutants like he'd planned. Would she continually bump-head with the team, thinking because she had the most experience she should take charge over Dani and Sam? And if she was on the team, how would Doug's death and Inferno have differed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphaxman View Post
    What do you guys think if the Professor forced Kitty to join the New Mutants like he'd planned. Would she continually bump-head with the team, thinking because she had the most experience she should take charge over Dani and Sam? And if she was on the team, how would Doug's death and Inferno have differed?
    Actually, Kitty is considered the first introduced New Mutant.

    She was introduced in UXM #129 (Jan 1980) which is a few months before the introduction of Karma in Dec 1980. Both were created by Chris Claremont.

    She should have joined the New Mutants team considering her age range. In terms of real life experience, Karma has more considerable experience and has a much rougher childhood than Kitty.

    Kitty even starred in the New Mutants vol 1 during the Hellion/Hellfire club saga. Don't know why Chris decided to let Kitty stay in UXM.

    If she was on the team, Doug's death wouldn't have been handled so meaninglessly. After all, Doug was Kitty's best male friend i.e. Doug was the software expert while Kitty was the hardware expert.

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    Loved the art of this certain era of uncanny x-men always gives house art

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    I'm so into that stylized image of Emma with the lines going through the shadows. Its really rad. Hypnotic. Like they were trying to convey through design elements that she's using telepathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Actually, Kitty is considered the first introduced New Mutant.

    She was introduced in UXM #129 (Jan 1980) which is a few months before the introduction of Karma in Dec 1980. Both were created by Chris Claremont.

    She should have joined the New Mutants team considering her age range. In terms of real life experience, Karma has more considerable experience and has a much rougher childhood than Kitty.

    Kitty even starred in the New Mutants vol 1 during the Hellion/Hellfire club saga. Don't know why Chris decided to let Kitty stay in UXM.

    If she was on the team, Doug's death wouldn't have been handled so meaninglessly. After all, Doug was Kitty's best male friend i.e. Doug was the software expert while Kitty was the hardware expert.
    he kept her there to appeal to younger readers of the X-men. She was a POV character

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    Karma was the oldest of everyone, Kitty included. IIRC she was 19 when she first joined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Karma was the oldest of everyone, Kitty included. IIRC she was 19 when she first joined.
    She was. She also had 2 younger siblings whom she had custody of and didnt live at the mansion. Thats why she wasnt an X-man and was with the NM instead. She had a life outside the school and was really around to train in her powers. Being an active X-man would have been irresponsible of her considering the 2 lives she had to care for

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Actually, Kitty is considered the first introduced New Mutant.

    She was introduced in UXM #129 (Jan 1980) which is a few months before the introduction of Karma in Dec 1980. Both were created by Chris Claremont.

    She should have joined the New Mutants team considering her age range. In terms of real life experience, Karma has more considerable experience and has a much rougher childhood than Kitty.

    Kitty even starred in the New Mutants vol 1 during the Hellion/Hellfire club saga. Don't know why Chris decided to let Kitty stay in UXM.

    If she was on the team, Doug's death wouldn't have been handled so meaninglessly. After all, Doug was Kitty's best male friend i.e. Doug was the software expert while Kitty was the hardware expert.

    I know that. I meant if she stayed on the team and hadn't rejoined the X-Men.
    I still think she'd fight for the leadership role. And like you, I think Doug'd death and Illyana's downwards spiral wouldn't have happened. Nor would she have been injured during the Mutant Massacre leading to her recover on Muir Island and the formalization of Excalibur. She defiantly wouldn't have gotten along with Boom Boom and would have hated everything Cable was trying to do with the X-babies ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalsrix View Post
    Actually, Kitty is considered the first introduced New Mutant.

    She was introduced in UXM #129 (Jan 1980) which is a few months before the introduction of Karma in Dec 1980. Both were created by Chris Claremont.

    She should have joined the New Mutants team considering her age range. In terms of real life experience, Karma has more considerable experience and has a much rougher childhood than Kitty.

    Kitty even starred in the New Mutants vol 1 during the Hellion/Hellfire club saga. Don't know why Chris decided to let Kitty stay in UXM.

    If she was on the team, Doug's death wouldn't have been handled so meaninglessly. After all, Doug was Kitty's best male friend i.e. Doug was the software expert while Kitty was the hardware expert.

    I know that. I meant if she stayed on the team and hadn't rejoined the X-Men.
    I still think she'd fight for the leadership role. And like you, I think Doug'd death and Illyana's downwards spiral wouldn't have happened. Nor would she have been injured during the Mutant Massacre leading to her recover on Muir Island and the formalization of Excalibur. She defiantly wouldn't have gotten along with Boom Boom and would have hated everything Cable was trying to do with the X-babies ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Karma was the oldest of everyone, Kitty included. IIRC she was 19 when she first joined.
    I know she is the oldest in age and had more real life experiences than the rest of the New Mutants and that's why she was the leader for the first few issues before she was captured by the Shadow King.

    What I am trying to say is that Kitty was introduced as a character (New Mutant) a few months earlier than Karma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphaxman View Post
    I know that. I meant if she stayed on the team and hadn't rejoined the X-Men.
    I still think she'd fight for the leadership role. And like you, I think Doug'd death and Illyana's downwards spiral wouldn't have happened. Nor would she have been injured during the Mutant Massacre leading to her recover on Muir Island and the formalization of Excalibur. She defiantly wouldn't have gotten along with Boom Boom and would have hated everything Cable was trying to do with the X-babies ;-)
    That is WILD to think about -- how Kitty's influence could've significantly altered the path of the New Mutants history.

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