Damian Wayne: Robin Appreciation 2019

[Fergus]

I was thinking in the same.. However, they can use as excuse that is classic, similar to the original starfire costume..

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That new 52 outfit is outrageous. Who knew Kori's shoulders needed such protection. Pasties for the boobs and then cover and protect them shoulders.

Godlike pretty much states the legitimate reason for the outfit. Them Boobs. Titillation is okay but in cases like these they don't even try to make it a mix of sex and logic. Her 1st costume at least supported her Breast.

[dietrich]

That's just dense fans who think that to relate to someone you have to be exactly like them.

Like for a person to relate to Damian they have to be incredibly wealthy, a murderer trained since he was born, with a grandfather that wants to take his body, and a mother that is playing games at global scale.

That's not how it works.

I look at Batman and Robin, Superson and I can relate at times to the father/son relationship but you don't need to relate to a character to love them.

My son is a Jason fan simply because he loves his aesthetic the best. I love Grayson the best because I grew up with him and his simply my favourite comic character, My wife likes Grayson the best because ...... I'm not sure she just does.
My daughter loves Damian best because she likes his personality the best and thinks he is cute.

Not all popular characters are relatable. Relatable or not the point is that he is loved

Lol @fergus. I see what you did there

[adrikito]

That new 52 outfit is outrageous. Who knew Kori's shoulders needed such protection. Pasties for the boobs and then cover and protect them shoulders.

Godlike pretty much states the legitimate reason for the outfit. Them Boobs. Titillation is okay but in cases like these they don't even try to make it a mix of sex and logic. Her 1st costume at least supported her Breast.

I am agree with you that the costume was sexist and ridiculous..

There are more women in the comics now and they continue using these kind of costumes? Bad strategy.. You are giving more female readers to marvel..

[Konja7]

I am agree with you that the costume was sexist and ridiculous..

There are more women in the comics now and they continue using these kind of costumes? Bad strategy.. You are giving more female readers to marvel..

Taking into account that Marvel sexualizes some of her female characters quite a lot too, that is not the place to escape from this.

That said, if manga and anime has taught me something it is that sexualized costumes or fanservice will not necessarily drive away so many women, as long as there is fanservice for them as well.

Of course, our cultures are different, so we react stronger to these things.

[Fergus]

I am agree with you that the costume was sexist and ridiculous..

There are more women in the comics now and they continue using these kind of costumes? Bad strategy.. You are giving more female readers to marvel..

Isn't Marvel pretty much the same in the comics?

I know the MCU is a pleasant surprise. Black Widow, The Dora Milaje and Captain Marvel were a refreshing change to the scantly clad female heroes we are used to. Proving that serviceable can be sexy.

While over on the DCEU side you've the most iconic female hero and a feminist icon with her numerous up-skirt shots.

I know some fans will complain if you minimise the T&A. They did with Captain Marvel who also got a breast reduction in addition to a more practical outfit and yet that movie is on it way to being the 1st female led hero movie to join the Billion dollar club. Clearly the majority don't care and just want a decent and enjoyable story.

[Fergus]

Taking into account that Marvel sexualizes some of her female characters quite a lot too, that is not the place to escape from this.

That said, if manga and anime has taught me something it is that sexualized costumes or fanservice will not drive away so many women, as long as there is fanservice for them as well.

Of course, our cultures are different, so we react stronger to these things.

A lot of the things that are acceptable in manga will bury and ruin companies over here. I don't think incest and Lolita's are things that marvel and DC can embrace the way it is in Manga.

That's a different world.
The sad thing is that I agree that sexualisation/ over sexualisation doesn't drive away female customers as one would think which is more a statement on what we as a society have conditioned our daughters to accept as normal.

Sexualising females is our norm and it really shouldn't be.

[Konja7]

Isn't Marvel pretty much the same in the comics?

I know the MCU is a pleasant surprise. Black Widow, The Dora Milaje and Captain Marvel were a refreshing change to the scantly clad female heroes we are used to. Proving that serviceable can be sexy.

While over on the DCEU side you've the most iconic female hero and a feminist icon with her numerous up-skirt shots.

I know some fans will complain if you minimise the T&A. They did with Captain Marvel who also got a breast reduction in addition to a more practical outfit and yet that movie is on it way to being the 1st female led hero movie to join the Billion dollar club. Clearly the majority don't care and just want a decent and enjoyable story.

This probably apply in the other way too.

There have been criticism of Wonder Woman up-skirt shorts in Justice League, but this doesn't cause the fail in of JL box office (since the biggest problem was his first weekend).

[adrikito]

I am not sure if this is about his age or about that Glass wanted to reserve this kiss for Crush but.. Seems that Damian is destined TO FAIL in his relationships like Batman.. Poor guy..

Anyway... Even if Damian was not lucky here I hope that make them a couple will make this TT to continue during a long time... Talking about that, seems that in the end even KF and Emiko could be a couple too..

Fortunatelly I didn´t saw it in 4chan.. SS fans would have started saying that Damian is destined to fail with the girls..

[Fergus]

This probably apply in the other way too.

There have been criticism of Wonder Woman up-skirt shorts in Justice League, but this doesn't cause the fail in of JL box office (since the biggest problem was his first weekend).

I never said anything about JL or the effects of her costume on JL. I didn't say anything about JL. Not sure how that factors into this conversation at all. I don't think her costume had anything to do with how that movie performed. She had the same costume and the same up skirt shots in her movie and it did exceptionally well.

I'm just wondering why the supposed feminist icon showing her knickers while lesser heroines are professionally dressed while drawing just as big a crowd..

I doubt it applies the other way in any big way. Porn is free. The important thing is if you can make money, entertain and have the heroine not in danger of busting out of her bustier. why do anything less? My point is Captain Marvel showed this can be done.

[Fergus]

I am not sure if this is about his age or about that Glass wanted to reserve this kiss for Crush but.. Seems that Damian is destined TO FAIL in his relationships like Batman.. Poor guy..

Anyway... Even if Damian was not lucky here I hope that make them a couple will make this TT to continue during a long time... Talking about that, seems that in the end even KF and Emiko could be a couple too..

Fortunatelly I didn´t saw it in 4chan.. SS fans would have started saying that Damian is destined to fail with the girls..

In Supersons he shared multiple kisses with a Bandit Princess who was from the sounds of it obsessed with and liked kissing Damian a lot but Damian didn't like that. So it seems that like his father he is destined to have dubious woman attracted to him while the good girls will always dump him.

Andrea, Vicky and I'm sure there was one more [was it Silver? can't recall if Bruce proposed to Silver outside of the Smith comic] that rejected Bruce's offer of marriage.

However Djinn & Crush/Kid Flash and Emiko doesn't mean he is doomed. Damian is 13 too young for any of this rubbish anyway. Can we just really get back to Slade not sure what is going to happen but with one issue left this crossover is stating to look more and more like Priest just really wanted to write Damian & Wallace again but could only get the go ahead if he did this crossover with the whole team.

Next Deathstroke has to be eventful and we already know from solicits that the conflict continues between Damian and Rose after this is over.

Also Kid Flash is a lady killer.

[Rac7d*]

I think djinnxDamian would save her from vanishing if the book got cancelled but I dont want crush to be sad so it hard

lol at his bed wear

[Konja7]

I never said anything about JL or the effects of her costume on JL. I didn't say anything about JL. Not sure how that factors into this conversation at all. I don't think her costume had anything to do with how that movie performed. She had the same costume and the same up skirt shots in her movie and it did exceptionally well.

I'm sorry. I was confused.

I though you were speaking about "Justice League", because it was the movie where I hear more criticism about Wonder Woman up-skirt shorts. I don't read this criticism for "Batman V Superman" and "Wonder Woman" (maybe it is because I wasn't discussing much about Superheroes movies at that time).

That was the reason why I mentioned this movie. I'm sorry.


PS: If there was many criticisms of her costume in "Wonder Woman", it would illustrate my point better.

[adrikito]

In Supersons he shared multiple kisses with a Bandit Princess who was from the sounds of it obsessed with and liked kissing Damian a lot but Damian didn't like that..

.. Supersons is one CHILD SERIE? with a lot of "funny" moments, I can´t see that, even if there are normal kisses..

The last time that I saw it Damian was old.. I am sure that there was something strange with that bandit princess(she has one strange face?) or.. simply she was really annoying, to make this funny to read..

Seems that Rose will be one anti-hero during certain time...

You are right with KF.. Tanya and Raven... Emiko can be the 3rd in his list...

TALKING ABOUT SUPERSONS... BATMAN 666 RETURNED OR NOT?

I think djinnxDamian would save her from vanishing if the book got cancelled but I dont want crush to be sad so it hard

Yeah.. I think that would save her too.. However, I think that have one controlled and happy Crush is better than have her angry with Damian... If they dissapear probably they will dissapear as a couple, in better conditions than other comic characters..

[Fergus]

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[Jackalope89]

.. Supersons is one CHILD SERIE? with a lot of "funny" moments, I can´t see that, even if there are normal kisses..

The last time that I saw it Damian was old.. I am sure that there was something strange with that bandit princess(she has one strange face?) or.. simply she was really annoying, to make this funny to read..

Seems that Rose will be one anti-hero during certain time...

You are right with KF.. Tanya and Raven... Emiko can be the 3rd in his list...

TALKING ABOUT SUPERSONS... BATMAN 666 RETURNED OR NOT?



Yeah.. I think that would save her too.. However, I think that have one controlled and happy Crush is better than have her angry with Damian... If they dissapear probably they will dissapear as a couple, in better conditions than other comic characters..

The old Damian was a one issue thing. No spoilers, but no long term effects. Bandit princess was off panel (sadly).

For Batman 666, well, it seems Bendis was given the Super franchise and Tomasi booted off before anything could be done with it.