Damian Wayne: Robin Appreciation 2019

[Arsenal]

Yeah we have. Last time Jason got laid, him and his date were drugged & abducted by the Joker shortly afterwards. Well, he got drugged & abducted. She was just drugged.

[dietrich]

He wasn't exactly having domestics with Talia while Damian was being killed. She had him chained up in a safe in the bottom of a pool and neither of them actually expected Damian to be there, and Talia really didn't expect that the clone to be resentful enough of Damian to kill him. Which she ought to have, being resentful of siblings to the point where you murder them is pretty common in nature, and very common in humans.

King's run is showcasing what has been easy to miss in previous BatCat stories, not that people realize it, including I suspect Mr. King as well: Bruce and Selina is not a healthy relationship. When you look at Earth 2, you see that Bruce when with Selina is not a good detective, it's the same with the Year 1 and 2 stuff and elesworlds with BatCat. It's not an inaccurate portrayal as most people when they are in a relationship built on lust and fetishes like BatCat and drop all friends and family to be with the other person get stupid. Really stupid.

That said, emotional connections and relationships are not a bad thing, particularly for someone in Bruce's career fields. One of the more interesting developing bodies of research on human behavior is how the brains of human males change when exposed on a constant basis to infants, children, and adolescents. The areas associated with risk assessment and problem solving basically explode, which correlates with something that law enforcement and military has know forever: dads make better investigators and soldiers. They are more likely to notice dangers and less likely to do irrational things that endanger themselves and others. They are more aware and observant than a non parent of the same age and background.

It's why Batman needs a Robin and not a wife or romantic partner; as we constantly see since Bruce is an idiot when he gets laid. We also know thanks to Multiversity that Damian is an idiot when he gets laid. Dick's...a bit of an idiot, and Jason and Tim don't get laid. We can say that because the whole jump the shark part of Lost Days when Talia sleeps with Jason and sends him to Hush because her dad died has be erased from current continuity. Not saying Jason's a virgin, but he doesn't get stupid due to sex as we haven't seen him get laid yet in canon.

As it has been pointed out, Bruce as a loner, only relationships that matter are romantic and then only with Selina, is a fine example of toxic masculinity. Ironically, despite its popularity, as Batman is longest running examples of tender masculinity in modern literature. What's really ironic is Deathstroke is now a better example of tender masculinity than Batman, and a more attentive parent. Which says a great deal about the comic book industry from top to bottom.

No I'm not talking about when Damian died in Batman Inc. I meant in Robin Son of Batman when mum and dad rode in help Damian and Maya save the world from ancient evil.

They were arguing over what was best for Damian and such other typical divorced parents' fighting over kid' stuff while Damian
was killed as I recall.

On King's Batman Masterpiece. Revisionist garbage pander to the lowest easiest hanging fruit. 'Gullible desperate thirsty shippers' who are more than willing to spend the money in the desperate hopes that their OTP will be made canon in the end.

Of course happiness for Bruce/Batman is Selina. Not his family or friends.

Of course Bruce is only Batman because he's unhappy and self medicating and the second he gets a whiff of happiness he'll turn his back on all the innocents in danger.
" Screw all 8 years old losing parents to crime in alley's"
" Screw the promise I made"
"Screw the mission my kids have lost so much blood and more for. I'm all loved up now and would rather do couple stuff like stay home away from crime and criminals.[unless they are pretty and female]


I dare say that anyone buying into what King's pitching or expecting a happily ever after deserves what's coming to them .

[dietrich]

Yeah we have. Last time Jason got laid, him and his date were drugged & abducted by the Joker shortly afterwards. Well, he got drugged & abducted. She was just drugged.

Huh the more you know. Was that when the whole Joker made Jason thing was going on in the new52?

[Arsenal]

Huh the more you know. Was that when the whole Joker made Jason thing was going on in the new52?

It was part of the Death of the Family Batfamily crossover.

[Arctic Cyclist]

Yeah we have. Last time Jason got laid, him and his date were drugged & abducted by the Joker shortly afterwards. Well, he got drugged & abducted. She was just drugged.

Oh! That's right. I love Isabel, but that girl needs some friends to sit down and say, "Seriously? You met him when he was 15, then he died, came back to life as a magic ninja warrior, you got kidnapped by aliens together, drugged by the Joker, he was a casino owner, and then he dumped his dog on you. You. A flight attendant. Did he leave you money for food, medication, toys, treats, training classes like agility, boarding, the pet deposit and extra hundred a month in rent? Why do you keep pursuing this kid? Have you not read Mars and Venus on a Date? Was the sex amazing before the whole nearly died thing?"

I just need to understand why she keeps attempting to date Jason. More importantly, would the relationship survive if Jason settles down and becomes the investment banker/volunteers with the Rotary and Big Brothers we know he should? How many kids are they going to produce, and will they be badasses like their parents? Or will they end up adopting Damian's oopsies because we all know Damian is cruising right towards teenage parenthood. Any boy who spends as much time unsupervised as Damian, with similar issues is going to be a daddy by 16.

....unless he ends up spending his teen years like Jon.

[Arctic Cyclist]

No I'm not talking about when Damian died in Batman Inc. I meant in Robin Son of Batman when mum and dad rode in help Damian and Maya save the world from ancient evil.

They were arguing over what was best for Damian and such other typical divorced parents' fighting over kid' stuff while Damian
was killed as I recall.

On King's Batman Masterpiece. Revisionist garbage pander to the lowest easiest hanging fruit. 'Gullible desperate thirsty shippers' who are more than willing to spend the money in the desperate hopes that their OTP will be made canon in the end.

Of course happiness for Bruce/Batman is Selina. Not his family or friends.

Of course Bruce is only Batman because he's unhappy and self medicating and the second he gets a whiff of happiness he'll turn his back on all the innocents in danger.
" Screw all 8 years old losing parents to crime in alley's"
" Screw the promise I made"
"Screw the mission my kids have lost so much blood and more for. I'm all loved up now and would rather do couple stuff like stay home away from crime and criminals.[unless they are pretty and female]


I dare say that anyone buying into what King's pitching or expecting a happily ever after deserves what's coming to them .

No, that was when Damian broke Suren by talking. Bruce and Talia had gone their separate ways and were doing their own things when Damian faced down Den.

People like BatCat. By people, I mean the powers that be. It's why every single adaptation pushes it in hopes that the masses will think it's like Lois and Clark.

Tom King honestly believes that BatCat will do as well as Batman and Robin in sales and become as beloved. Who knows? Maybe it will. I doubt it, but I've been wrong before. Generally not when it comes to reading and marketing trends, but it could happen. And it will at least be as loved as Hush, and the Long Halloween which are Batman for people who love plot holes.

[dietrich]

No, that was when Damian broke Suren by talking. Bruce and Talia had gone their separate ways and were doing their own things when Damian faced down Den.

People like BatCat. By people, I mean the powers that be. It's why every single adaptation pushes it in hopes that the masses will think it's like Lois and Clark.

Tom King honestly believes that BatCat will do as well as Batman and Robin in sales and become as beloved. Who knows? Maybe it will. I doubt it, but I've been wrong before. Generally not when it comes to reading and marketing trends, but it could happen. And it will at least be as loved as Hush, and the Long Halloween which are Batman for people who love plot holes.

Unless DC is prepared to forfeit Catwoman as a villain/anti hero then it's not going to work. Selina is a thief who takes things because she can. She isn't Lois and she never will be. Catwoman and Batman only works if one of them is willing to drastically change a big defining part of their core.

Batman needs to no longer be a crime fighter or Selina needs to stop taking things that don't belong to her. I'm not the biggest Batman fan but even I felt like i was being mocked when she crept out of bed to go steal her wedding dress or when the big Batman was shagging on stolen Diamonds.

Good guy Selina has been done before so it is possible for her to be good and I don't mean 'Harley good'. That sort of is she isn't flirting with badness. That won't work if she is to be married to Batman.

I don't think DC is ready to forfeit Catwoman as a foe for batman and I don't think the Catwoman brand is such that offers much flexibility. If she she isn't getting chased what's the point?

Lois works because she doesn't have to hide or pretend. Lois doesn't compromise Clark/Superman. Lois doesn't have to be change her purpose [what she is at her core] to fit with superman but Selina does.

BatCat is something that only works once Bruce is retired and selina has fallen victim to arthritis [no more cat burgling for you miss]

BatCat will sell Tom is right but it isn't as enduring as B&R a concept. Folks are too drunk on the kool aid to realise that we already saw what a married Batman and Catwoman is like. King gave us that for nearly half his run and it was shallow and boring as hell but very pretty to look at.

[dietrich]

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The Super Sons are back! But now Jon is five years older, and he’s sitting on the biggest decision of his young life. Damian and Jon team up again for a rip-roaring adventure and a huge catch-up! These two best buds have really needed each other, and now they are back!
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[dietrich]

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The Teen Titans’ traitor is finally revealed as all their scheming finally comes to a head! How will the team deal with the betrayal, and to what end are the traitor’s plans? Worse, will the previously secret Teen Titans team finally be exposed to the world? This house of cards is about to come crashing down…and one of the Teen Titans will pay the ultimate price!
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[Rac7d*]

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cover by IVAN REIS and JOE PRADO
variant cover by JASON MASTERS
The Super Sons are back! But now Jon is five years older, and he’s sitting on the biggest decision of his young life. Damian and Jon team up again for a rip-roaring adventure and a huge catch-up! These two best buds have really needed each other, and now they are back!
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Omg this is where he says goodbye and goes with the legion in the future isn’t it.

[dietrich]

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[dietrich]

Omg this is where he says goodbye and goes with the legion in the future isn’t it.

Seems like. This sucks.

[Rac7d*]

Seems like. This sucks.

Their can only be one and I guess konner is it

[dietrich]

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[dietrich]

Their can only be one and I guess konner is it

But the batverse has Damian and Tim who are all sort of in the same role. Not to mention Duke as well.
Plus Conner fits the legion much more than Jon.