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    Driving around Gotham on the Bat Bike. The cancelled Damian game looks awesome.
    It feels like Grand Theft Auto watching this.


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1117145598321471489

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    Not really.

    Current Tim isn't the same as pre Flash point or new 52 rather he's a refurbished version of the 2.

    Current Tim joined the family 3 years ago is 16, worked with the new 52 TT and YJ. He is Bruce's ward since his folks are in WP for some unexplained reason.
    Current Tim did seek out Bruce and did figure out Batman and Robin's id after seeing Robin do Dick Grayson's [now Bruce Wayne son] do the flying Grayson's special move he witnessed as a kid.
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    3 YEARS AGO? He was replaced for Damian 1 month later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrikito View Post
    3 YEARS AGO? He was replaced for Damian 1 month later?
    Right. The thing that must sting and which shows how DC has messed and scraped from the character is that Damian in canon has a longer tenure as Robin than Tim who alternated as RR.

    It's a shitshow but the positive is that he's in the hands of a writer who likes him and in a series with pals. He's getting a do over. A fresh start.

    Tim Drake is lucky.

    Most characters only get one chance but Tim has had a few. even 2nd chance at Batman's sidekick in one of DC's most high profile titles and another go at getting back to his heyday. Reuniting him with other fan favourites in the well established YJ title.

    He was given Terry's mantle and replaced him in his book. Becoming RR [I liked that series]

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    I think they could solve all timeline problems by having Bruce start as Batman earlier at like 21 rather than 25.

    Then every one wins. Batman stay's younger in his 30s and can more easily fit all the Robins and Batgirls into the timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana500 View Post
    I think they could solve all timeline problems by having Bruce start as Batman earlier at like 21 rather than 25.

    Then every one wins. Batman stay's younger in his 30s and can more easily fit all the Robins and Batgirls into the timeline.
    It’s more about splitting up the time each robin has as well as the periods Bruce was out of commission and replaced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    It’s more about splitting up the time each robin has as well as the periods Bruce was out of commission and replaced
    Yeah but with Bruce starting earlier. It means he can get a Robin earlier. Which allows more time for each character to be Robin.


    If he started at 21 he could be Batman for 14 years and only be 35. Allowing like 12 years to fit in all the Robins rather than the current 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana500 View Post
    Yeah but with Bruce starting earlier. It means he can get a Robin earlier. Which allows more time for each character to be Robin.


    If he started at 21 he could be Batman for 14 years and only be 35. Allowing like 12 years to fit in all the Robins rather than the current 5.
    Does? Dick has the longest duration and must be legal before Damian arrives do then do we make his adoption at age 8 or later? Jason term is never longer then a year as robin. Tim’s vary on when tali’s comes into the picture. Then we have the issue who will Tim be afterwards, since that’s the real reason their is any problem at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    Does? Dick has the longest duration and must be legal before Damian arrives do then do we make his adoption at age 8 or later? Jason term is never longer then a year as robin. Tim’s vary on when tali’s comes into the picture. Then we have the issue who will Tim be afterwards, since that’s the real reason their is any problem at all
    The 5 year thing is garbage. Dick needs to be adopted at age 8 because part of why Bruce is so affected by Dick is that he saw himself in him. The Grayson need to die when Dick is a similar age to young Bruce when he lost his folks.

    That's an important part of the Batman story.

    Damian with his ambiguous birth and development could have been artificially aged up to age 10 like Heretic. Who was a grown ass man and yet younger than 10.

    Or just have Batman fall into the same pool under the cave that Joker did that slows his ageing problem solved. That also gets Didio off Dick's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    Driving around Gotham on the Bat Bike. The cancelled Damian game looks awesome.
    It feels like Grand Theft Auto watching this.


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1117145598321471489
    I think this is a modded Grand Theft Auto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrikito View Post
    3 YEARS AGO? He was replaced for Damian 1 month later?
    To be exact
    Bruce became Batman 6 years before the start of New 52, where he also met Duke
    Dick became Robin 5 years before the start of New 52
    Barbara became Batgirl the same year as Dick but retired 2 years later as she went to college and then incapacitated by The Joker
    Jason became Robin 3 years before New 52 started but only lasted a few months, maybe even only one
    Then came Tim who was in middle school at that time
    Damian became Robin and Dick became Batman 1 year before New 52 started. At the same time, Barbara started rehabilitation

    Now New 52 started.

    Damian was considered 10 years old from when he started as Robin until the end of New 52
    When Rebirth started he became 13

    New 52 realistically lasted 3 years.
    The first year started with Joker cutting his face off
    The second-year was when Death of The Family happened
    The last year was when Endgame and everything else happened

    Tim was given the all-encompassing age of 16 from New 52 to Rebirth. If he's 16 only in the last year of New 52 to Rebirth, he would've been 10 when he became Robin in middle school

    But that timeline above is only from New 52 to the start of Rebirth. After Rebirth they started to change things.

    Bruce's start of Batman is pushed back 10-11 years before Rebirth started, so was Wonder Woman and Justice League, but I don't know when the Robins started appearing, when any particular events happened or where the timeline is compressed.

    For example, Zero Year happened, but maybe no longer Batman's origin, since Duke would've been 20 by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    To be exact
    Bruce became Batman 6 years before the start of New 52, where he also met Duke
    Dick became Robin 5 years before the start of New 52
    Barbara became Batgirl the same year as Dick but retired 2 years later as she went to college and then incapacitated by The Joker
    Jason became Robin 3 years before New 52 started but only lasted a few months, maybe even only one
    Then came Tim who was in middle school at that time
    Damian became Robin and Dick became Batman 1 year before New 52 started. At the same time, Barbara started rehabilitation

    Now New 52 started.

    Damian was considered 10 years old from when he started as Robin until the end of New 52
    When Rebirth started he became 13

    New 52 realistically lasted 3 years.
    The first year started with Joker cutting his face off
    The second-year was when Death of The Family happened
    The last year was when Endgame and everything else happened

    Tim was given the all-encompassing age of 16 from New 52 to Rebirth. If he's 16 only in the last year of New 52 to Rebirth, he would've been 10 when he became Robin in middle school

    But that timeline above is only from New 52 to the start of Rebirth. After Rebirth they started to change things.

    Bruce's start of Batman is pushed back 10-11 years before Rebirth started, so was Wonder Woman and Justice League, but I don't know when the Robins started appearing, when any particular events happened or where the timeline is compressed.

    For example, Zero Year happened, but maybe no longer Batman's origin, since Duke would've been 20 by now.
    Yeah, lets just erase the New52 timeline. Since Rebirth, the "5 years" was made into "10 missing years".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    To be exact
    Bruce became Batman 6 years before the start of New 52, where he also met Duke
    Dick became Robin 5 years before the start of New 52
    Barbara became Batgirl the same year as Dick but retired 2 years later as she went to college and then incapacitated by The Joker
    Jason became Robin 3 years before New 52 started but only lasted a few months, maybe even only one
    Then came Tim who was in middle school at that time
    Damian became Robin and Dick became Batman 1 year before New 52 started. At the same time, Barbara started rehabilitation

    Now New 52 started.

    Damian was considered 10 years old from when he started as Robin until the end of New 52
    When Rebirth started he became 13

    New 52 realistically lasted 3 years.
    The first year started with Joker cutting his face off
    The second-year was when Death of The Family happened
    The last year was when Endgame and everything else happened

    Tim was given the all-encompassing age of 16 from New 52 to Rebirth. If he's 16 only in the last year of New 52 to Rebirth, he would've been 10 when he became Robin in middle school

    But that timeline above is only from New 52 to the start of Rebirth. After Rebirth they started to change things.

    Bruce's start of Batman is pushed back 10-11 years before Rebirth started, so was Wonder Woman and Justice League, but I don't know when the Robins started appearing, when any particular events happened or where the timeline is compressed.

    For example, Zero Year happened, but maybe no longer Batman's origin, since Duke would've been 20 by now.
    The only Robin's I remember getting a start point for were

    Damian his history remains and always has been the same. Started at age 10 now 13

    Tim first introduced/approached Dick Grayson at age 13 according to Rebirth Tec

    Age wasn't given but in Batman we get a flashback of when he first moved into Wayne Manor and he was a Kid.

    Duke met Bruce as a kid haven't seen that change however he's clearly younger than 20. That or Black really don't crack

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    Oh yeah, I forgot. I said Tim would be 10 when he started because I'm looking at it from when Rebirth started. New 52 lasting realistically 3 years plus becoming a Robin 3 years before the start of New 52. 16-6=10

    However, if he has the all-encompassing age of 16 throughout New 52 and Rebirth, then you can still count him as 16 at the start of New 52, and when he became Robin 3 years before that, he would be 13.

    Meanwhile Damian aged. So you can have Tim starting at 13, Damian starting at 10, and Tim still has 2-3 years of Robinhood tenure.

    Comics!
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