We Already Know How To Die: New X-Men Appreciation 2019

[Dthirds3]

Logan constantly referring to Pixie as “girlie girl” in Fraction’s run was demeaning at best and predatory at worst.

He dose that to all the underage girl(whose not related by blood)he meets and becames there adopted father. If your related by blood he kills or neglects you

[nj06]

Young X-men really was bad. Poor writing and characterization. I didn't like the fact that Wolf Cub was killed off either. It didn't do or add anything to the story or the greater X-verse so it cam off as cheap. Cipher, Ink, and Graymalkin have some potential but no one seems interested. I think Ink would be better as a villain TBH.

I feel like the new mutants introduced post K & Y have been very underwhelming. The 5 Lights kinda came and went. And the Bendis creations just never did it for me at all.


Also, I hate the way so many X-youth have been aged up. Pixie, Indra, and even X-23. It happened way too fast.

[The Big G]

Julian’s tush rights!

ObjectifyJulianKeller2k19

I mean he does make pornos

it is known

[9th.]

I never got around to reading Young X-Men because I heard it was really really bad but I've always been tempted. Plus I've seen a lot of love for that Cipher character.

[mugiwara]

Ink was not very lieable, but he had a cool power.
Cipher was bland as ****, but there was the mystery about "who is she hiding from" that I wish would have been adressed.
Graymalkin had the most potential of the three. Adapting to the modern world, finding how the perception of homoseauality is different today, and of course his link to Preofessor X. None of this was exploited, and now it's too late.

[Glio]

Oh, and why didn’t Logan ever adopt Pixie or Surge

I mean....Nori’s dad disowned her from her entire family and Megan’s dad is Mastermind.

Both were rather pupils of Scott. Surge was practically his legacy character. They both stayed with him after Schism.

[PrezValentine]

Oh, and why didn’t Logan ever adopt Pixie or Surge

I mean....Nori’s dad disowned her from her entire family and Megan’s dad is Mastermind.

Scott got dibs on the adoption papers.

Unless Logan marries him and they're Surge, Pixie, Armor and Laura's dads. Which is literally impossible since we don't live on the most blessed timeline.

[Fokken]

Ink was not very lieable, but he had a cool power.
Cipher was bland as ****, but there was the mystery about "who is she hiding from" that I wish would have been adressed.
Graymalkin had the most potential of the three. Adapting to the modern world, finding how the perception of homoseauality is different today, and of course his link to Preofessor X. None of this was exploited, and now it's too late.

Yeah, oddly, Ink's irritability factor is what I found appealing. Sometimes the narrative needs a d-bag.
Cipher intrigued me most and I am STILL salivating over the WHO HOW WHAT WHEN of the danger in her past she's trying to hide from.
Graymalkin was "WTF" for me, until they revealed he was essentially time and culture displaced and then I was on board. I love that whole navigating a different foreign ERA narrative. Its what I found so appealing about Amara, when she was introduced. "Merciful Minerva!!! What is a Hot Pocket??"

[Anduinel]

Yeah, oddly, Ink's irritability factor is what I found appealing. Sometimes the narrative needs a d-bag.

Thing is, he's a boring d-bag. Like, woo - he's Rogue, Synch, or Hope with even less interest attached. There are interesting angles to explored with this dude, like the fact that he's pretty much the ultimate poser. He's a guy who benefits from mutant powers, but gets almost none of the drawbacks - he could likely walk under a Sentinel's metaphorical nose with impunity. How does that affect how he interacts with people whose friends and family get hunted down a regular basis because of how they're born? There's potential for both conflict and growth there. But newp, only Guggs is willing to write him, and nothing about the guy's writing or behavior makes me think he's going to be that introspective about his pet deux ex.

[Fokken]

Thing is, he's a boring d-bag. Like, woo - he's Rogue, Synch, or Hope with even less interest attached. There are interesting angles to explored with this dude, like the fact that he's pretty much the ultimate poser. He's a guy who benefits from mutant powers, but gets almost none of the drawbacks - he could likely walk under a Sentinel's metaphorical nose with impunity. How does that affect how he interacts with people whose friends and family get hunted down a regular basis because of how they're born? There's potential for both conflict and growth there. But newp, only Guggs is willing to write him, and nothing about the guy's writing or behavior makes me think he's going to be that introspective about his pet deux ex.

I misspoke. haha.
I didn't mean to imply I found him enjoyable. Eww. No.
You're absolutely correct. He boring. He basic. I just meant to say that his one endearing -- no, even that isn't the right word -- his one saving grace(?) is his feather ruffling. But yeah. He dull.

[Tycon]

Both were rather pupils of Scott. Surge was practically his legacy character. They both stayed with him after Schism.

Scott got dibs on the adoption papers.

Unless Logan marries him and they're Surge, Pixie, Armor and Laura's dads. Which is literally impossible since we don't live on the most blessed timeline.

Oh yeah, I guess that’s true. Everyone is saying Hickman is gonna be the second coming, does that mean he’ll bring back the Cyclops and Surge dynamic that we all missed? It’s hogwash that she didn’t go with Scott when he came to the school to scoop up recruits. Absolute bollocks luv. Anyway, yeah the New X-Girls deserve two emotionally unstable but caring father figures. Also Logan should apologize for treating Julian like a mosquito for five years but that will probably never happen either.

Yeah, Pixie was stated to be 14 in Children of X-Men and in Fraction's first or second arc it's stated she's old enough to drink in Canada. Indra was also definitely drawn much older than in NXM where was 13.

I reread Fraction's run and can confirm it is still the worst. The only thing in its favour are its "ideas" but they're so haphazardly introduced and treated with such little care that they don't measure up to the OOC-ness, the complete destruction of Scott and Emma, the "darlings" and "babes", the casual sexism and the infamous Magneto kneeling and Nightcrawler's funeral issues. It was before my time but I heard Fraction's run almost destroyed CBR. The best of times, the worst of times...

How long was the Divided We Stand era, anyway? I know it was at least some months but couldn’t have been more than like a year, right? Poor Indra, I doubt anyone noticed or cared because it was Mann and he (used to) draw everyone pin-up but actually attractive unlike Land’s traced-from-a-mag art that never fit the characters he was drawing.

Also, not to conflate my own personal grievances with Fraction’s very problematic elements in his story, but why choose Pixie out of all the kids? I get she has the naiveté and cuteness that Land grossly sexualized, but he made everyone else feel like a backdrop to how cool Pixie was.

[Sutekh]

I feel like the new mutants introduced post K & Y have been very underwhelming. The 5 Lights kinda came and went. And the Bendis creations just never did it for me at all.

Ditto. I have grown to like Oya and Evan 'Genesis' and the Bamfs (esp Pickles!) and Transonic has a cool visual, but for the most part, with the sole exception of Goldballs, whom I love just to be contrary, since everyone else kind of hates him, just about everyone else can go to an extradimensional rave with Quentin, Doop and Glob and never be seen again...

I would rather read about New X-Men / X-Men Academy era kids that were nothing more than names on the page and never had a speaking line, like Kidogo or Travao or Naiad, than Triage or Primal or 'Kid Gladiator' (gag).

[Tycon]

When are the Aaron kids gonna have their 'bus' moment?

ObjectifyJulianKeller2k19

I mean he does make pornos

it is known

it gives them something to grab onto

[Anduinel]

Ditto. I have grown to like Oya and Evan 'Genesis' and the Bamfs (esp Pickles!) and Transonic has a cool visual, but for the most part, with the sole exception of Goldballs, whom I love just to be contrary, since everyone else kind of hates him, just about everyone else can go to an extradimensional rave with Quentin, Doop and Glob and never be seen again...

I would rather read about New X-Men / X-Men Academy era kids that were nothing more than names on the page and never had a speaking line, like Kidogo or Travao or Naiad, than Triage or Primal or 'Kid Gladiator' (gag).

Zero was interesting, at least. So of course his characterization was flattened as soon as Gillen left, and his building conflict with Hope utterly squandered. Boo.

[Digifiend]

Also, Magma nearly murdering Dust and not really caring???

How? Dust just no-selled a stabbing in Champions a couple of months ago.