Well, I'm voting for Billy the otter.
Also, I had an idea for how they could include Eli in the MCU
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They can just have him be Steve's great-grandson instead of Isaiah.
Well, I'm voting for Billy the otter.
Also, I had an idea for how they could include Eli in the MCU
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They can just have him be Steve's great-grandson instead of Isaiah.
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There is obviously something about the Eli character that means Marvel can't use him. Unless they plan to shell out cash to fix it, i doubt we'll ever see him again.
They'll just use the new Patriot, especially give they have already started using him in cartoons, and blocked Coogler using Eli in Black Panther.
I know the guy has fans, but for whatever reason, he's gone, retired, lost to some legal wrangling.
I will raise my throne above the Stars of God
It's not Eli who is tied up in the rights issues it's the Bradley's because Marvel doesn't want to give money to a dead man's family for whatever terrible reason.
Doesn't matter the specifics. It's clear that MCU Patriot would be Rayshaun Lucas.
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Yet Marvel doesn't seem invested in giving him any type of compelling backstory or reason to be invested in him, at least they made Joaqin Torres interesting before they sidelined him.
Regarding Rayshaun's backstory, it was pretty compelling in practice; but maybe you had to have been there and read Spencer's Cap live during that time. (And as powerful a story as it was, Secret Empire's eventness did have its drawbacks. Eli's backstory not being compelling wasn't one of 'em, unless activist-minded youths taking charge at their surroundings that feel hopeless doesn't do it for you; it's tied to Rage's fall, so again, had to be there in the heat of the moment with the characters, perhaps.)
Doesn't justify the general shelving of Joaquin, but that's its own topic and really neither here nor there to Rayshaun and him being a completely fine Patriot to make use of if they chose to do so.
In the comics, Rayshaun idolised Rage, and then became Sam Wilson's sidekick, receiving training from a Black Widow AI and tech from Ironheart's Tony Stark AI during Secret Empire. He later buddied up with Falcon, Sam's other sidekick, and both joined the Champions together. In the Marvel Rising cartoons, he was Steve Rogers's sidekick instead, and Steve secretly arranged for the Secret Warriors to be formed as a way to get him with heroes his own age. Neither version is similar to Eli's backstory, where he takes drugs to get powers and forms a team off panel prior to Young Avengers #1.
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Fam, I’m tearing up this is so beautiful
https://twitter.com/artofnickrobles/...903533062?s=21
The warmth of the pallet and just the faintest rainbow like shimmer of colors has me soaring.
If I never see another image of Billy & Teddy for the rest of my life, this would be a phenomenal finale
Also, what a GORGEOUS signature Robles has!
The problem is not with Eli's creators. Marvel has no beef with Heinberg and/or Cheung, as far as I'm concerned. As a matter of fact, they just announced their comeback to the publisher for the Marvel Comics #1000 book. Eli was just seemingly dragged into this because of his association to the Bradley family. He was collateral damage. And your suggestion sounds terrible. If they're not gonna use the characters anyway, there is no need to kill them off. Just keep them off-page like they have been for the last 7 years. Maybe someday they can use them again.
Yeah, that's exactly what I think it would happen. If they use a Patriot in the Young Avengers for the MCU, then it's more than likely they'll be taking inspiration from Heinberg's run. It would be hard for them to resist the temptation of taking several character traits from Eli and giving them to whomever is the new Patriot of that world, specially if it's another young black man who fights for social justice.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to Marvel Comics #1000. I really think the Heinberg/Cheung page will give us a clue as to where Marvel stands on the use of Eli right now. I'm hoping this very special reunion will lead to him being allowed into comics again.
It looks gorgeous, but I kinda like the other coloring better. This one seems like it's been through one of those heavy Instagram filters. It doesn't look bad at all, but I probably would've liked it more if I hadn't seen the sketch first. I LOVE the background and the sprinkles-like effect, though. Anyway, I'm always here for good Billy/Teddy art!
And look! He fixed Billy's elf ear! LOL
This is a nice, all-around succinct way of explaining the basics of Rayshaun in both of his incarnations. And as mentioned, none of these basics overlap with Eli. The only thing they have in common is the moniker of Patriot and the fact that they are both young Black men who are, by and large, woke.