Page 1 of 16 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 237
  1. #1
    ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ Godlike13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    8,935

    Default Barbara Gordon: Batgirl, Oracle Appreciation 2019


  2. #2
    Astonishing Member Restingvoice's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    3,441

    Default

    The first time I know about Barbara Gordon is from Batman 66 tv series.

    As a kid, I remember being confused whether I want her to be with Bruce or Dick because there's always a love interest in the movies and books I read at the time and her age in Batman 66 seems to fit neatly between the two.

    It's only after Schumacher's Batman and Robin and BTAS did I start to consider Dick Grayson as her love interest.

    The first comic I read about her is in Hush as Oracle, The Killing Joke as a civilian, and the New 52 as Batgirl. It really surprised me that she didn't have her own solo before New 52.

    d3imd1r-d94d58c1-355f-4663-a46c-1741681fda8c.jpg

  3. #3
    Astonishing Member kjn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    3,199

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    The first comic I read about her is in Hush as Oracle, The Killing Joke as a civilian, and the New 52 as Batgirl. It really surprised me that she didn't have her own solo before New 52.
    In a way, the original Birds of Prey can be considered as Oracle's first solo title. And when she was first created, the comics market was very dissimilar to today's, and her having a regular backup feature in Detective Comics was probably equivalent (or more so in exposure) as having her own title today.

    And now for one picture that really shows how other heroes appreciate Babs, from Birds of Prey #21:
    Attached Images Attached Images

  4. #4
    ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ Godlike13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    8,935

    Default

    Batgirl 30 was ok, can’t say I like Eternal’s Jason Bard. But Batgirl in HiC was really cool. Nice to see her have a role in an event.

  5. #5
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    45,336

    Default

    Happy New Year to the Dominoed Daredoll and sometimes-Oracle Barbara Gordon .

  6. #6
    I am a diamond, Ms. Pryde millernumber1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    10,643

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Batgirl 30 was ok, can’t say I like Eternal’s Jason Bard. But Batgirl in HiC was really cool. Nice to see her have a role in an event.
    I love Batman Eternal, so I loved seeing this followed up on. While Scott is such a huge step up from the last 7 years, I still don't have an emotional connection to this series as I want to (and had to Babs in Birds of Prey).

    Heroes in Crisis really reminded me of Oracle Year One in Babs's reactions and feelings. I think it's not quite as good as Ostrander and Yale's take, but it was really nice to see that exploration.
    "We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, by Aaron Allston
    "All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
    "There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown, Batgirl, by Bryan Q. Miller
    Stephanie Brown Wiki, My Batman Universe Reviews

  7. #7
    Astonishing Member kjn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    3,199

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Heroes in Crisis really reminded me of Oracle Year One in Babs's reactions and feelings. I think it's not quite as good as Ostrander and Yale's take, but it was really nice to see that exploration.
    I had the opposite reaction: this was twentyfive years too late, and we have been subjected to a Babs where every writer since New 52 has feel compelled to get back to TKJ at the first opportunity. But Babs is the one superhero who have gone through a trauma recovery arc on-camera: first as Oracle and then as Batgirl. What King does in the Babs booth session here goes right against what Scott did in Batgirl #27. And that undercuts the scene with Harley as well.

  8. #8
    Incredible Member RedQueen's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    712

    Default

    I liked the interaction between Harley and Babs. While Babs has had her trauma explored in the past, I liked how it linked Harley and Babs this time around.

  9. #9
    Moderator Frontier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    45,336

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RedQueen View Post
    I liked the interaction between Harley and Babs. While Babs has had her trauma explored in the past, I liked how it linked Harley and Babs this time around.
    I like the idea of Babs connecting with someone who's undergone severe emotional physical trauma like she has...less so if it's with Harley Quinn.

    But that's just me.

  10. #10
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    1,084

    Default

    Before the retcons and changes to Barbara's past , how old was Barbara in the Killing Joke Story?
    I know that she had history of having a Ph.D., being the head librarian of Gotham City Library, and being a U.S. House representative
    I created a thread about Dick Grayson/Nightwing and Koriand'r/Starfire.
    It is to acknowledge and honor their iconic and popular relationship.
    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/teen-...rfire-1975639/

    I created a fan page about Peter Parker/Spider-Man and Mary Jane Watson.
    This page is for all the Spider-Marriage fans.
    http://www.facebook.com/SpiderManMaryJane/

  11. #11
    Titans Together!! byrd156's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Kansas City, MO
    Posts
    9,392

    Default

    That Babs and Harley interaction was weird as hell.
    "It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does? - Gaff Blade Runner

    "In a short time, this will be a long time ago." - Werner Slow West

    "One of the biggest problems in the industry is apathy right now." - Dan Didio Co-Publisher of I Wonder Why That Is Comics

  12. #12
    Astonishing Member Restingvoice's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    3,441

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starrius View Post
    Before the retcons and changes to Barbara's past , how old was Barbara in the Killing Joke Story?
    I know that she had history of having a Ph.D., being the head librarian of Gotham City Library, and being a U.S. House representative
    I heard, unconfirmed and I forgot from where, that she's supposed to be 40 years old. That explains why the art shows her a lot older than I expected.

    Batman-The-Killing-Joke-13.jpg

  13. #13
    Incredible Member RedQueen's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    712

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Starrius View Post
    Before the retcons and changes to Barbara's past , how old was Barbara in the Killing Joke Story?
    I know that she had history of having a Ph.D., being the head librarian of Gotham City Library, and being a U.S. House representative
    She was confirmed to be 25 when she ran for congress, they made up a law or something for her to able to do it that young or something.

    I'd say mid to late twenties with how they condensed the timeline.

    With New 52, it's gotta be late teens given the nature of the deaging and timespan they've canonically provided.

    I'd put current Babs at 24-25 since DC have loosened the reigns since rebirth.

  14. #14
    Astonishing Member Restingvoice's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    3,441

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RedQueen View Post
    She was confirmed to be 25 when she ran for congress, they made up a law or something for her to able to do it that young or something.

    I'd say mid to late twenties with how they condensed the timeline.

    With New 52, it's gotta be late teens given the nature of the deaging and timespan they've canonically provided.

    I'd put current Babs at 24-25 since DC have loosened the reigns since rebirth.
    In New 52 she's 15 when she first become Batgirl and 21 when she becomes Batgirl again. It was mentioned The Killing Joke happened 3 years ago. The first time she became Batgirl she went solo for a year, then joined Batman and Robin for at least another year. Then Dick and Babs went to college, Jason became Robin, she was still Batgirl until she made a mistake and was fired by Batman.

    So it matched. 18 years old in New 52.

  15. #15
    Astonishing Member kjn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    3,199

    Default

    Couture!Barbara Gordon winning commission for @barbiegirlgordon. Made with watercolour, Indian ink and gold leaf. By elithien.

    tumblr_og2lpjWz2P1qjsznso2_500.jpg

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •