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    Quote Originally Posted by KangMiRae View Post
    Yeah, but he said "even on this very forum", so I think he was just referencing to the fans, on this site, who responded in the poll.
    True. And while 120 responses might not be definitive in terms of a readership in the tens of thousands, it’s still an interesting sampling result.

    Personally, I don’t see this version of the character selling in a solo book. Certainly not for more than maybe six issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    True. And while 120 responses might not be definitive in terms of a readership in the tens of thousands, it’s still an interesting sampling result.

    Personally, I don’t see this version of the character selling in a solo book. Certainly not for more than maybe six issues.

    It's not like the normal version sells either. Charles soule run where she was last completely normal was p good but got cancelled in 12 issues, which basically seems to be the average for the low selling ones these few years :/

    The mariko tamaki one was longer (17 including the renumbering, but it had the grey she hulk)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichijinijisanji View Post
    It's not like the normal version sells either. Charles soule run where she was last completely normal was p good but got cancelled in 12 issues, which basically seems to be the average for the low selling ones these few years :/

    The mariko tamaki one was longer (17 including the renumbering, but it had the grey she hulk)
    The Soule run died so soon for one reason: vomit-inducing art.

    Tamaki's run only lasted longer because Marvel was stubborn in trying to push this new direction. The sales went to Crap Town almost immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    The Soule run died so soon for one reason: vomit-inducing art.

    Tamaki's run only lasted longer because Marvel was stubborn in trying to push this new direction. The sales went to Crap Town almost immediately.
    Once I got used to the art, I found the Soule run the most engaging. I should point out, that Soule's She Hulk got bigger and huskier as she exerted herself. Would that have been a better middle ground? Another question, who had the longest run? Byrne (before he burned all his bridges) or Slott?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beetee View Post
    Once I got used to the art, I found the Soule run the most engaging. I should point out, that Soule's She Hulk got bigger and huskier as she exerted herself. Would that have been a better middle ground? Another question, who had the longest run? Byrne (before he burned all his bridges) or Slott?
    Byrne had 60.

    Slott had 12 (she hulk vol 1) which was cancelled, but then rescued by the trade sales (and he made a joke about it in book) to be rebooted to She hulk vol 2 a couple months later (8?) which had Slott for the first 22ish issues and then PAD for the remaining until #38

    I think byrne's run is more decisively longer, because slott's was cancelled at 12 issues first, and second go didn't last for nearly as long either.

    Shame cause I like slott's run more, so I wish he would've stayed on longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beetee View Post
    Once I got used to the art, I found the Soule run the most engaging. I should point out, that Soule's She Hulk got bigger and huskier as she exerted herself. Would that have been a better middle ground? Another question, who had the longest run? Byrne (before he burned all his bridges) or Slott?
    Hm. Never thought about the "bigger as she exerted herself" thing much. But come to think of it? Yeah, that may be a decent middle ground compromise. Jen can remain good looking most of the time, but when she really has to dig deep, there's an outward sign.

    Heck, I'd even accept the idea that her intellect goes down and she veers closer to the Savage territory. It gives her powers some drawbacks and makes it look like she doesn't exactly "have it made" either.

    Hulk has long been established as getting stronger as he gets angrier. That's also a blessing and a curse. This would be something similar for Jen. Suddenly she has to balance Power with Control, which is kinda the big difference between Jen and Bruce to begin with.

    According to Wikipedia, Slott is credited as having written the most solo issues of She Hulk, though that doesn't seem right to me? Didn't Byrne write 60 issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichijinijisanji View Post
    Byrne had 60.
    We're talking about Sensational right? Byrne's run stopped at #8 before Steve Gerber stepped in followed by Simon Furman and then Byrne returned at #31 until #50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    We're talking about Sensational right? Byrne's run stopped at #8 before Steve Gerber stepped in followed by Simon Furman and then Byrne returned at #31 until #50.

    fu you're right mah bad
    either way sensational is the longest run

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    Guys this is clearly the alternate universe she-hulk that slept with juggernout from that non powered universe where they come to our universe for fun explaining why heroes act out of character!

    She-hulk herself explained it in that issue! Guess the real she-hulk is on vacation and the other one is in the avengers. Isn't it ironic that the one book that did a story explaining why heroes act out of character is now out of character herself!

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    Have She-Hulks "gamma blast-punches" been revealed yet? Or ignored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard-01 View Post
    The Soule run died so soon for one reason: vomit-inducing art.

    Tamaki's run only lasted longer because Marvel was stubborn in trying to push this new direction. The sales went to Crap Town almost immediately.
    Having just looked at some pages of the Soule tun, I would have to agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    True. And while 120 responses might not be definitive in terms of a readership in the tens of thousands, it’s still an interesting sampling result.

    Personally, I don’t see this version of the character selling in a solo book. Certainly not for more than maybe six issues.
    In fairness, a sample of 1000 is thought enough to make judgements about general elections in the UK, so that's not terribly poor sampling at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilderkin View Post
    In fairness, a sample of 1000 is thought enough to make judgements about general elections in the UK, so that's not terribly poor sampling at all
    That's using random sampling, not self-selection (i.e. entering a 'hate on new she-hulk' thread).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichijinijisanji View Post
    Byrne had 60.

    Slott had 12 (she hulk vol 1) which was cancelled, but then rescued by the trade sales (and he made a joke about it in book) to be rebooted to She hulk vol 2 a couple months later (8?) which had Slott for the first 22ish issues and then PAD for the remaining until #38

    I think byrne's run is more decisively longer, because slott's was cancelled at 12 issues first, and second go didn't last for nearly as long either.

    Shame cause I like slott's run more, so I wish he would've stayed on longer.
    Slott should have added Jennifer to his run on Amazing Spider-Man. Not saying that Jennifer and Peter should be lovers. But their interaction might have led to her involvement with the Spider-Verse where she meets the Bruce Banner: The Amazing Spider-Man. I feel that Jennifer sparing with Spider-Hulk might had been a fun read under Slott's writing..

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    I'm pretty sure that this version will not continue after Aaron. The only mainstream article about She-huk by a feminist site is a celebration of her classic character: http://www.themarysue.com/she-hulk-m...se-now-please/ and on twitter, for the most part, women talk about her classic representation and at best nobody care about this new version. She will serve her role as a stand-in of Hulk, and after this story, it will be the end of it. She is not working for most of men and women fans either.
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