"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
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Relax guys, I'm gonna write and draw the next Black Widow ongoing.
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"Who wouldn't go out with the Black Widow? I'd strangle a litter of kittens for one dinner with her!"
Adrian Toomes aka the Vulture
"Natasha Romanoff, A.K.A. Black Widow - ex-KGB, formerly with S.H.I.E.L.D...Probably the brains of this operation.I have followed her career, and she has been consistently UNDERRATED."
Hmmmmmmm. I wonder...
"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
Stephanie Brown Wiki, My Batman Universe Reviews, Stephanie Brown Discord
It's not hard at all to make sales of the Black Widow strong. It's the lack of the writer's imagination to combine fiction with current events that will hold the reader's interest. There is too much James Bond dialog fantasy to the Black Widow series and not enough grounded stories that are tied to current events. A good example is Natasha investigating the real reason to why the Notre Dame Cathedral burned down or the Russian Military buildup in Ukraine. Those are the type of stories that would get people to read The Black Widow comics...
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The way to keep a BW book going is to have a movie that will drive trade sales so you can circumvent the DM.
Or have better covers (I love you Crain, but this ain't it.)
I don't blind date I make the direct market vibrate
It's just weird because the sales are uncharacteristically low for a Black Widow book. The only other BW book that's sold this badly is the all-ages miniseries (and all-ages books never really do well in the DM as a given). Actually, I haven't compared the sales since issue 2, it might even be selling worse.
The last two ongoings weren't amazing, IMO, but they at least got a little bit of promotion, and they had pretty stable sales up until the end. Both of them only just hit the cancellation plateau around the time the final issues were coming out, instead of being forced into cancellation after months of bad sales.
I actually don't think that a movie is a good indication that Black Widow will have a consistent ongoing in the future, at all, though. For one, she already has a strong backlog of trades they've printed going back to her old stories from the 70s that audiences will probably check out first. Another is that the movies only did so much to make Lang Ant-Man last, and even that's gone now. Heck, Ant-Man at least had a sequel spoilers:end of spoilers
which I don't even know is possible for the Black Widow movie in light of Endgame..
And yeah those covers did suck lmao
I think we just need a good writer that commits to a specific direction and executes it well. If you want to do edgy spy fiction, I want something that feels as atmospheric and noir-tinged as Brubaker's Cap run or Velvet. If you do straight superhero action, I want a story with heart and good characterization like an Ewing book.
I think they could probably get Rucka to do another Black Widow story if they wanted, but I don't know if he's on the editor's radar.
Well, the new book is by essentially new comic writers, unlike darlings Waid and Samnee. And while I like Flaviano on the book, it is very untraditional for this kind of project.
This is the exact same scenario that happened with the Falcon book, so I've been on this horse before.
I don't blind date I make the direct market vibrate
I don't doubt that the choice of lesser know creators was on purpose. Noto, Waid, Samnee are big names in comics, but they didn't guarantee big sales for Marvel. With B-List creators Marvel isn't paying high page rates and "losing" when sales are on the mediocre side.
I do think it's actually a good strat to foster new comics talent by getting them on projects like this, but notice how it is consistently more successful when you get a novelist with an install-base that's there entirely for that author, compared to TV/Movie talent where they are a part of projects that have many fans who don't care about following all of the different people who worked on the thing.
I don't blind date I make the direct market vibrate
I want to see Rucka writing another Black Widow MAX story, this time with Natasha.
Or maybe Garth Ennis...
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"Who wouldn't go out with the Black Widow? I'd strangle a litter of kittens for one dinner with her!"
Adrian Toomes aka the Vulture
"Natasha Romanoff, A.K.A. Black Widow - ex-KGB, formerly with S.H.I.E.L.D...Probably the brains of this operation.I have followed her career, and she has been consistently UNDERRATED."
by Yasmine Putri
Ehhhhh, I'd rather not open the can of worms that is the clone plotline. Though part of me sees the MCU deciding to adapt all my least favorite story elements just to Personally Spite Me
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Honestly, with how little attention her death got in the funeral scene, and the fact that they had Bruce say he tried to bring Natasha back with the Gauntlet, I could see them saying the Gauntlet did work at bringing her back. It's the easiest explanation they could go for, and they could do it at anytime.