Carol Danvers - Captain Marvel Appreciation 2019

[skyvolt2000]

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies...arvel2018a.htm

Domestic: $153,000,000 33.6%
+ Foreign: $302,000,000 66.4%
= Worldwide: $455,000,000

It had already made more than it's budget. The film has at least broken even.

[Arsenal]

Looks like it’ll debut as the second highest grossing movie of 2019 (so far) and will likely take the number one spot in a week or 2

[Drops Of Venus]

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies...arvel2018a.htm





It had already made more than it's budget. The film has at least broken even.

Looks like the #AlitaChallenge has worked out really great for the haters, LMAO.

[Ascended]

Overall, an average movie, definitively not what I was hoping just before Endgame.

I wonder if this hasn't actually hampered the film.

I mean, Infinity War was the culmination of a decade of movies, with stakes we hadn't seen before or since, with a cliffhanger that left everyone devastated and waiting for Endgame. And despite all the pressure and the stupidly huge cast, the movie delivered on almost every level, on almost every promise and hope audiences had. It was huge, not just by Marvel standards but by Hollywood standards. And we've been left waiting for the past year to see the resolution to the biggest moment in MCU history.

Compared to all of that, how is a solo outing, and an origin story at that, going to compare?

Carol's movie is quality by Marvel standards. I mean, can anyone really say that it's really worse than Dr. Strange or Ant-Man or Thor or many of the other films we've seen over the last ten years? No (we might have personal preference but objectively speaking?). It's just as good as the usual Marvel fare, and better than many. But after Infinity War, with Endgame just around the corner? It'd be hard for any movie to look good compared to that.

[Ascended]

I’ve never really cared about Captain Marvel, but I saw the movie yesterday.

Having seen the movie, what would you all consider “essential” reading, because god damn sign me up for the Carol Corps.

Welcome to the Corps!

If you want to get into familiar material, you need to read Kelly Sue DeConnick's first volume of Captain Marvel. She did a second volume as well but I dont think its essential reading. You might also want to look at Stohl's "Life of Captain Marvel" which was a five issue mini and is already collected in trades. I didnt read it but I hear it was decent.

And Brian Reed's Ms. Marvel run is definitely a must-read too. Carol's not in the blue-red costume or using "Captain" but a lot of the character groundwork KSD covers in her first arc is setup by Reed.

If you can find it, the original Ms. Marvel series from the 70's might be worth looking at too. Some of the ideas the movie plays with originates with that run.

A new series just got started as well, but my LCS screwed up and I haven't read a single issue of it yet.

[Dthirds3]

Looks like the #AlitaChallenge has worked out really great for the haters, LMAO.

Alitalia had a horrible dropoff this week.

[Celgress]

...Carol's movie is quality by Marvel standards. I mean, can anyone really say that it's really worse than Dr. Strange or Ant-Man or Thor or many of the other films we've seen over the last ten years?...

Most certainly not. If anything it is a bit better than those you've listed above. I'll give it a 3 out of 5 (2.5 is an average rating), slightly above average although not my cup of tea.

[Flash Gordon]

I wonder if this hasn't actually hampered the film.

I mean, Infinity War was the culmination of a decade of movies, with stakes we hadn't seen before or since, with a cliffhanger that left everyone devastated and waiting for Endgame. And despite all the pressure and the stupidly huge cast, the movie delivered on almost every level, on almost every promise and hope audiences had. It was huge, not just by Marvel standards but by Hollywood standards. And we've been left waiting for the past year to see the resolution to the biggest moment in MCU history.

Compared to all of that, how is a solo outing, and an origin story at that, going to compare?

Carol's movie is quality by Marvel standards. I mean, can anyone really say that it's really worse than Dr. Strange or Ant-Man or Thor or many of the other films we've seen over the last ten years? No (we might have personal preference but objectively speaking?). It's just as good as the usual Marvel fare, and better than many. But after Infinity War, with Endgame just around the corner? It'd be hard for any movie to look good compared to that.

I think its unfair to compare it.

Honestly if anything I feel like the connective tissue of the MCU tends to hamper a lot. This flick was so entertaining when it wasn't trying to connect the dots for other marvel stuff.

[Mike_Murdock]

I’ve never really cared about Captain Marvel, but I saw the movie yesterday.

Having seen the movie, what would you all consider “essential” reading, because god damn sign me up for the Carol Corps.

I'm going to answer this two ways. First, if you enjoyed the movie and want something that reminds you of it, the best option is Kelly Sue DeConnick's runs. I also would suggest reading the Brood Saga in Uncanny X-Men.

If you want to know all the influences the movie has, I'm going to go a bit deeper. I would read the following:

If you're OK with Silver and early Bronze Age comics:
The original Captain Marvel 1-19
The Kree/Skrull War
Ms. Marvel Vol. 1 (at least 1, 9-10, 11-14, 19)
Avengers Annual 10 (which, unfortunately, is best understood with Avengers 200, but know this is a problematic story)

Brian Reid's Ms. Marvel run is pretty solid. I would definitely read Ms. Marvel #31-37.

[Gambit, King of Thieves]

B

I'm going to answer this two ways. First, if you enjoyed the movie and want something that reminds you of it, the best option is Kelly Sue DeConnick's runs. I also would suggest reading the Brood Saga in Uncanny X-Men.

If you want to know all the influences the movie has, I'm going to go a bit deeper. I would read the following:

If you're OK with Silver and early Bronze Age comics:
The original Captain Marvel 1-19
The Kree/Skrull War
Ms. Marvel Vol. 1 (at least 1, 9-10, 11-14, 19)
Avengers Annual 10 (which, unfortunately, is best understood with Avengers 200, but know this is a problematic story)

Brian Reid's Ms. Marvel run is pretty solid. I would definitely read Ms. Marvel #31-37.

Been meaning to read the Brood Saga for a while for the X-Men. I’ll definitely check it out.

[lilyinblue]

One thing I am wondering

Does MCU Carol age still?

I guess not? Or at least extremely slowly.

spoilers:

When she shows up in the post-credit scene, she looks like she hasn't aged a day... only her hair's grown out a bit.

end of spoilers

[Ascended]

Most certainly not. If anything it is a bit better than those you've listed above. I'll give it a 3 out of 5 (2.5 is an average rating), slightly above average although not my cup of tea.

For me, it's not on the same level as my absolute favorite MCU films (Infinity War, Winter Soldier, etc) but it's right there with the second-favorites (Black Panther, Iron Man, etc). I'm perfectly satisfied with the movie and I expect the sequels to be far better.

I think its unfair to compare it.

Exactly. But people are going to (and are) anyway.

[lilyinblue]

I've seen the movie three times already. Clearly, I liked it.

Honestly? I know it wasn't perfect. In truth, pretty much all of my criticism boils down to me wanting more. I think it could have been a better movie if it were a longer movie. There's a few points I just wish we had spent a little more time with. I'd have liked a slightly bigger glimpse into her family life growing up, I'd like a little more time with the Air Force... and I think I would want a little more of her joy at realizing she could fly.

I'm just thrilled that Endgame is only a month and a half away, so I don't have to wait too long for more Carol. (And I know I'm going to get frustrated with Endgame because I'm going to want it to be the Carol Danvers show, but it's going to have to make some room for all of those other Avengers. Tsk.)

[kilderkin]

Just seen it

Had some nice moments but generally I found it just okay

Not one I'd see again, like Dr strange and panther for me in that regard

Seems like it's doing well though

[ZeroBG82]

Been thinking about Carol's film debut since I saw it Friday night. And I can definitely see where the criticisms are coming from. It is very much the Marvel formula, for better or worse.

But I had a lot of fun. Loved Brie Larson, she finally solved the Carol puzzle for me. Brought some fun and some joy to the proceedings. Fury was great. Goose was a scene stealer. And I loved Talos and the skrulls.

I really enjoyed the reverse-Superman plot. Human goes to alien world, gets awesome powers at the cost of her history and humanity. But then finally reclaims both and becomes the mightiest of Earth's heroes.

It has flaws. Not enough time with Carol's backstory, for one. But a great intro to the character. And delightful visually. Really well done on that front.