Do you think it's necessary for WW to have the special effects and grandeur

[Titan Theo]

Of Aquaman to make more money for the 2nd film? I mean I can just imagine the box office and critical reviews if Patty and James worked together..they can balance each other out....

[Geraldofrivia]

Of Aquaman to make more money for the 2nd film? I mean I can just imagine the box office and critical reviews if Patty and James worked together..they can balance each other out....

If the movie has to make more money in international box office especially China where made Aquaman 275 million it needs to be CGI spectacle.

[Agent 86]

It would be great for Wonder Woman to have special effects and grandeur, IF required by the story.

But, so far, it seems as though Patty Jenkins is interested in telling smaller, more personal and slightly more "grounded" stories. The first film was centred on the human-scale conflict of WW1. And it seems as though the second film will, at least in part, tell a more personal story about the conflict between Diana and Barbara (although for all I know, it could actually involve a HUGE battle between the Bana Mighdall Amazons and Egyptian gods with Diana in the middle of it).

Of course, that's not to say that I wouldn't have LOVED to see Themyscira rendered as a truly futuristic society with all sorts of wonderful technology, including flying transportation devices, etc. I guess there's still hope that Themyscira has a technology / innovation hub on a part of the island not yet seen in Wonder Woman or Justice League.

[kjn]

Why does Wonder Woman 84 need to make more money than Aquaman? I mean, it's not like WB would say no to winning the box office lottery again, but it's not like they would say no to a solidly profitable and critically acclaimed film that makes actors and directors excited over working with WB.

[starlight25]

It would be great for Wonder Woman to have special effects and grandeur, IF required by the story.

But, so far, it seems as though Patty Jenkins is interested in telling smaller, more personal and slightly more "grounded" stories. The first film was centred on the human-scale conflict of WW1. And it seems as though the second film will, at least in part, tell a more personal story about the conflict between Diana and Barbara (although for all I know, it could actually involve a HUGE battle between the Bana Mighdall Amazons and Egyptian gods with Diana in the middle of it).

Of course, that's not to say that I wouldn't have LOVED to see Themyscira rendered as a truly futuristic society with all sorts of wonderful technology, including flying transportation devices, etc. I guess there's still hope that Themyscira has a technology / innovation hub on a part of the island not yet seen in Wonder Woman or Justice League.

There is no reason why we can't have a personal story and great CGI action as well. There should be a time and place for both.

[Titan Theo]

Why does Wonder Woman 84 need to make more money than Aquaman? I mean, it's not like WB would say no to winning the box office lottery again, but it's not like they would say no to a solidly profitable and critically acclaimed film that makes actors and directors excited over working with WB.

I want WW to make more money better than it's original run; this only means more popularity for WW, garnering in new fans. Commercialism does have its draws and can serve as a bridge to many things. Also, the more popular WW becomes, hopefully it also leads to more consistent portrayal of her power levels (unlike what happened in Justice League).

TT

[Geraldofrivia]

Why does Wonder Woman 84 need to make more money than Aquaman? I mean, it's not like WB would say no to winning the box office lottery again, but it's not like they would say no to a solidly profitable and critically acclaimed film that makes actors and directors excited over working with WB.

So that WW can be more popular internationally. Do you want WW just to be limited to English speaking countries.

[starlight25]

So that WW can be more popular internationally. Do you want WW just to be limited to English speaking countries.

Well she is popular outside of english speakig countries. But yes, i want her to become even more popular.

[kjn]

I want WW to make more money better than it's original run; this only means more popularity for WW, garnering in new fans. Commercialism does have its draws and can serve as a bridge to many things. Also, the more popular WW becomes, hopefully it also leads to more consistent portrayal of her power levels (unlike what happened in Justice League).

So that WW can be more popular internationally. Do you want WW just to be limited to English speaking countries.

Box office and popularity are not necessarily connected. There is a difference between a popular film and an engaging film. Aquaman or Thor: Ragnarok are examples of the former; Logan or Wonder Woman are examples of the latter. The former "merely" gives people a good time (except that there is little "merely" about good entertainment); the latter turns people into fans and are talked about a long time afterward.

I believe it would be foolish to give up the grounded qualities in emotion and story that made Wonder Woman into a critical, commercial, and fan-creating success in order to simply chase a short-term box office. If the story needs CGI spectacle, for all means include it, but it should not be the point of the movie. Aquaman needed the CGI spectacle because of where the story was set, but the CGI spectacle was because of the story, not the other way around.

[Geraldofrivia]

Box office and popularity are not necessarily connected. There is a difference between a popular film and an engaging film. Aquaman or Thor: Ragnarok are examples of the former; Logan or Wonder Woman are examples of the latter. The former "merely"give people a good time (except that there is little "merely" about good entertainment); the latter turns people into fans and are talked about a long time afterwards.

I believe it would be foolish to give up the grounded qualities in emotion and story that made Wonder Woman into a critical, commercial, and fan-creating success in order to simply chase a short-term box office. If the story needs CGI spectacle, for all means include it, but it should not be the point of the movie. Aquaman needed the CGI spectacle because of where the story was set, but the CGI spectacle was because of the story, not the other way around.

So Themyscira looks like Normal 300 BC island with dilapidated buildings instead of a magical Island with pegasus and Kangaroos.

The Gods are relegated to painting instead of actually showing the battle between Ares and Gods

The final battle between Ares and Diana looked straight out of Ps2 video game.

Patty simply lacks the imagination unlike James Wann or Gunn or Ryan Coogler to bring the crazy world of Diana to screen like Aquaman or Marvel movies

Wonder Woman was created to universally appealing and wonderful not just for adults.

[numberthirty]

One guy's take...

I wouldn't want just slapping some special effects on in an attempt to try to grab cash to be a thing that happens.

[starlight25]

So Themyscira looks like Normal 300 BC island with dilapidated buildings instead of a magical Island with pegasus and Kangaroos.

The Gods are relegated to painting instead of actually showing the battle between Ares and Gods

The final battle between Ares and Diana looked straight out of Ps2 video game.

Patty simply lacks the imagination unlike James Wann or Gunn or Ryan Coogler to bring the crazy world of Diana to screen like Aquaman or Marvel movies

Wonder Woman was created to universally appealing and wonderful not just for adults.

Patty did what she could with the movie that already had the script, budget, actress, etc before she came along. Don't forget that in the comics. WW is not treated very well by geof, snyder, didio, priest, etc. So if anybody should be blamed. It's them. They took away her classic origin, cast, made her weaker etc. Patty on the other hand. You can tell she loves the character for real, unlike those guys i mentioned. If WW continues to be successful with films. We have a chance to see a more powerful WW and more of her verse in a big way if we get a franchise.

[BiteTheBullet]

Patty did what she could with the movie that already had the script, budget, actress, etc before she came along. Don't forget that in the comics. WW is not treated very well by geof, snyder, didio, priest, etc. So if anybody should be blamed. It's them. They took away her classic origin, cast, made her weaker etc. Patty on the other hand. You can tell she loves the character for real, unlike those guys i mentioned. If WW continues to be successful with films. We have a chance to see a more powerful WW and more of her verse in a big way if we get a franchise.

Explain to me how we are going to see a more powerful Wonder Woman. Since Superman curbstomped her and the rest of the superbuddies, I have just about given up hope that they will show Wonder Woman respect.

Also, who would you take in a fight/war, the Atlanteans or the technologically backwards folk of Themyscria.

So yes she needs better CGI and action sequences and show her power, although I really don't think that will happen. Unless they want to completely retcon everything that happen from BvS through JL.

[starlight25]

Explain to me how we are going to see a more powerful Wonder Woman. Since Superman curbstomped her and the rest of the superbuddies, I have just about given up hope that they will show Wonder Woman respect.

Also, who would you take in a fight/war, the Atlanteans or the technologically backwards folk of Themyscria.

So yes she needs better CGI and action sequences and show her power, although I really don't think that will happen. Unless they want to completely retcon everything that happen from BvS through JL.

Who cares about that crappy jl movie. aq in his solo movie that happened after jl had better feats than his feats in jl. That jl movie was a disaster and made WB lost a lot of money. Nobody wants to acknowledge it. If we do get a franchise. Then we can see her grow in power as we get more films. Patty alreay said she wants to see Diana get more experienced and powrful. So yes, there is a chance it can happen. And it if doesn't. It won't be the end of the world, because things are already a mess in the comic realm. We have nothing left to lose. But i can have hope about DCEU WW, because i know based on all i said before, that there is a good chance that it can actually happen. There is a better chance for things to get better on the silver screen than in the comics.

[Fuzzy Mittens]

I'll take a low CG affair that makes back five times its budget over some high CGI affair like Mortal Engines and Transformers Last Knight which struggle to make bank due to how much money was poured into its production