Originally Posted by
Raye
While Fraction's run had... problems... we do have him to thank for kid Loki, so, just saying, it had some positives. In general though yeah, Thor wasn't really his kind of thing. But,while some complain about Aaron, (I don't think they are the majority they like to claim they are) aside from a few quibbles (tho, the same can be said of any run on any book) I've quite enjoyed it.
Well, we like him this way. We aren't everyone, and it's really hard to say how many are with us on that. Just like with the fans who like to insist everyone hates Aaron on Thor, and that tens of thousands of people are apparently hate-buying it, a few of us sitting in this thread talking about how much we like the current characterization doesn't equal everyone liking it. And someone who liked him better old school, like, say, Slott, could get control of him at some point. Or Marvel could just decide it's time to restore the status quo. I hope they don't, and I don't think it's super likely right now, but it's always a possibility. I mean I do think it is a fairly popular take on the character, there are lots of letters in the letters pages that support it, and it's talked about positively in other places besides this thread as well. I'm just saying, never assume that because you've found a group of people that agree with you, that it means everyone does. I think that if Cates does get the book next, (and right now he seems like the obvious choice) all will be fine, he seemed to really do well with Loki as an antihero type. A few others would also be fine, but others... I'd be worried.
I don't think it will be his redemption either, but it's kinda hard to think of what else it could be, unless it's like, his life or something. But I don't think Loki has been 'offering up' his redemption. That makes it sound like morality is something you can just give away if you want. But it is more complex than just actions, that's the point. I mean sure, actions are part of it, and there are certain actions that really have no justification, but I think the point of this story is that the reasons for actions matter more. By doing bad things, but for a greater good, and feeling bad about it, it demonstrates his change of attitute is genuine and not an act. It's the 'feels bad' part and the reasons behind the actions that's important, not the actions themselves, and he can't give that away. I mean, obviously the ideal would be to not do bad things at all, and the bad things for good reason is prone to backfire and cause unintended harm with no good payoff.... but it's still better than doing all that with bad intentions. Loki's still Loki, so he's still going to do things his way, and that means some.... unique and sometimes questionable solutions to problems, but as long as he's acting with good intent, he's still on track. He did move a bit more towards the dark in Aaron's run, but not enough that I'd say he's given up the face turn.