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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Just saw the pic of Magik and Armor. Was going to comment there's 100% chance she will never be going out with an Asian male in the comics.
    If it is a asian x-men male I'm 500% sure it won't happen

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    Magik x Armor lol:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Just saw the pic of Magik and Armor. Was going to comment there's 100% chance she will never be going out with an Asian male in the comics.
    I wouldn't say 100%. Kwannon had her relationship with Matsu'o, Amiko Kobayashi dated Shin Harada before disappearing back into limbo.

    So it's rare in comics, but not unheard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    I wouldn't say 100%. Kwannon had her relationship with Matsu'o, Amiko Kobayashi dated Shin Harada before disappearing back into limbo.

    So it's rare in comics, but not unheard of.
    ON the other hand , it's pretty common in anime, well it's sort of the rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Just saw the pic of Magik and Armor. Was going to comment there's 100% chance she will never be going out with an Asian male in the comics.
    I don't see the problem , it means she'll be in an interracial relationship, thus more representation

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    Quote Originally Posted by wano View Post
    ON the other hand , it's pretty common in anime, well it's sort of the rule

    I don't see the problem , it means she'll be in an interracial relationship, thus more representation
    Western media has a tendency to desexualize Asian men, they are statistically among the "least desirable" groups on dating apps.

    So it kinda sucks that Marvel is perpetuating that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Western media has a tendency to desexualize Asian men, they are statistically among the "least desirable" groups on dating apps.

    So it kinda sucks that Marvel is perpetuating that.
    Yeah it really does... but Magik+Armor isn't adding to that not having any Asian male X-Men is

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    Yeah it really does... but Magik+Armor isn't adding to that not having any Asian male X-Men is
    Still a lesbian relationship, reallu under represented on comics

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    Yeah it really does... but Magik+Armor isn't adding to that not having any Asian male X-Men is
    I wasnt talking about Magik/Armor, but the second part of Colossus1980's post about how it is very unlikely that Armor will ever date an Asian male.

    Any issues I have with Magik/Armor would have more to do with the age difference, the difference in life experience, and the fact that Illyana has spent a lot of time torturing and traumatising Hisako's classmates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanami View Post
    I can relate especially in regards to the Autism Spetrum. It's not like every single one can have genius level intellect or good with Math. :/ In other places they act like you can catch it.
    Im both Ace and have Asperger's. FUN!

    seriously though this is why we need more representation. So the good ones can make up for the bad ones. Almost all Asperger's/high functioning autism spectrum characters I have seen have always had something that annoyed me. Though that could also just be me finding something in the character I don't like about myself. I haven't seen the Good Doctor yet, but from the ads it looks like it could be kinda too cutesy.

    Actually its funny PsychoEFrost mentions Ron Stoppable, the character I most relate to in terms of my Asperger's is a also a cartoon character, Ghoulia Yelps from Monster High.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Western media has a tendency to desexualize Asian men, they are statistically among the "least desirable" groups on dating apps.

    So it kinda sucks that Marvel is perpetuating that.
    Noticed that Marvel has created more Asian females than males of late. Of course quite a few of them are lesbians and the others are not going out with Asian males.

    Than I noticed it seems that Marvel likes to make the new Asian males gay. Examples are Jake Oh from Shield, the Korean secretary from She-Hulk, and some other character from Patsy Walker.

    It would be great if Marvel could at least have one hetro Asian couple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Noticed that Marvel has created more Asian females than males of late. Of course quite a few of them are lesbians and the others are not going out with Asian males.

    Than I noticed it seems that Marvel likes to make the new Asian males gay. Examples are Jake Oh from Shield, the Korean secretary from She-Hulk, and some other character from Patsy Walker.

    It would be great if Marvel could at least have one hetro Asian couple.
    iirc Jake Oh and Telekinian (from Hellcat) are both bisexual. Jake was introduced in Phoenix Warsong as a potential love interest of one of the Stepford Cuckoos, and Telekinian had an semi villainous ex-girlfriend.

    So they could both potentially date an Asian girl in the future. It would just require writers actually choosing to use them.

    There's also Hindsight from the last Generation X series, he was half Korean and bisexual.

    Plus I don't necessarily mind that a lot of the recently introduced Asian American charcters at Marvel are LGBT+, there's a lot of racism and stigma in the queer community so it's also important representation in it's own right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Noticed that Marvel has created more Asian females than males of late. Of course quite a few of them are lesbians and the others are not going out with Asian males.

    Than I noticed it seems that Marvel likes to make the new Asian males gay. Examples are Jake Oh from Shield, the Korean secretary from She-Hulk, and some other character from Patsy Walker.

    It would be great if Marvel could at least have one hetro Asian couple.
    God, yes! We jjust need this one win for the straights!

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    Armor could come out as Asexual or just stay single just because not every character needs to be in a relationship.

    One adds representation for a group that's often misundestood and could use some positive depictions in media which they rarely (if ever) get to see. The other adds nothing. So I'll throw my support for her being Ace.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colossus1980 View Post
    Noticed that Marvel has created more Asian females than males of late. Of course quite a few of them are lesbians and the others are not going out with Asian males.

    Than I noticed it seems that Marvel likes to make the new Asian males gay. Examples are Jake Oh from Shield, the Korean secretary from She-Hulk, and some other character from Patsy Walker.

    It would be great if Marvel could at least have one hetro Asian couple.
    Most LGBT characters in media are Cis Gay White Men so it's nice seeing Marvel reflecting the racial diversity within our community. I think characters like Ian Soo and Jake Oh (both of whom are bi) have more to do with writers being aware of POC LGBT people existing and how underrepresented they are than a concious effort to "make the asian male characters gay."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Who knows. No one ever gave her a romantic interest.
    this we wont know until the writers decide to explore her character more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mah VM View Post
    Armor could come out as Asexual or just stay single just because not every character needs to be in a relationship.

    One adds representation for a group that's often misundestood and could use some positive depictions in media which they rarely (if ever) get to see. The other adds nothing. So I'll throw my support for her being Ace.
    I'm split on it.
    On the one hand it gives positive represention to an under served group of people.

    On the other, it kinda limits the kind of stories you can tell about the character.
    Like it or not, romantic subplots are a pretty big aspect of character development and story telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mah VM View Post
    Armor could come out as Asexual or just stay single just because not every character needs to be in a relationship.

    One adds representation for a group that's often misundestood and could use some positive depictions in media which they rarely (if ever) get to see. The other adds nothing. So I'll throw my support for her being Ace.



    Most LGBT characters in media are Cis Gay White Men so it's nice seeing Marvel reflecting the racial diversity within our community. I think characters like Ian Soo and Jake Oh (both of whom are bi) have more to do with writers being aware of POC LGBT people existing and how underrepresented they are than a concious effort to "make the asian male characters gay."
    a concious effort to "make the asian male characters gay.
    Touched on this in the Black Male x-characters thread. . .

    Any Hetero "Non-white" is kept out of media HISTORICALLY. Because the hetero white male patriarchal view finds a gay Asian male "not a threat" to what they think is important same as males of other races...
    So american media (where comics came from), you're far more likely to see an asain girl with literally ANY OTHER RACE. Meanwhile, Asian males will be treated as Saints/Eunuchs or gays or of course: Unspeaking Martial Arts weapons.

    It has more to do with continuing that trend since more than more of us would like to admit... considering that while the characters might be more diverse the writers... are largely cultrualy Homogenous.

    But... to the Op... I feel like the X-books are crowded and lots of the X-people of that generation are underdeveloped in one way or another.
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