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    Absolutely agree with both of you, I would love to see Zdarsky on a Cap run. He not only wrote a great Steve in Invaders, but I loved his Steve in Spider-Man Life Story as well. He has the character pretty much nailed.

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    Outlawed cover...



    Makes me very happy that Steve will be in this book, fighting for the voices of the youth. Shows natural growth/progression as a person/character from Young Avengers, when his experiences with Bucky had him feeling that younger heroes maybe shouldn't be on the battlefield. But he made a good point in that preview for Outlaw (which I posted a few pages back). He, himself, was 18 when he signed up for Project Rebirth, he was but a babe himself and he wanted a voice in what was going on, which everyone should be allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    Outlawed cover...



    Makes me very happy that Steve will be in this book, fighting for the voices of the youth. Shows natural growth/progression as a person/character from Young Avengers, when his experiences with Bucky had him feeling that younger heroes maybe shouldn't be on the battlefield. But he made a good point in that preview for Outlaw (which I posted a few pages back). He, himself, was 18 when he signed up for Project Rebirth, he was but a babe himself and he wanted a voice in what was going on, which everyone should be allowed.
    I wonder about the context of this cover...are the adult heroes catching up on all the teen heroes to protect them, or because they've been put in charge of apprehending them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I wonder about the context of this cover...are the adult heroes catching up on all the teen heroes to protect them, or because they've been put in charge of apprehending them?
    In the preview for the first issue it showed these three defending the younger heroes against some sort of senate meeting. So, I think they're plotting how to fight against the new policy.

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    I LOVE the cover for Captain America #20. L-O-V-E it. So Bond...


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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    I LOVE the cover for Captain America #20. L-O-V-E it. So Bond...

    Oh and hey, he's back in his Cap outfit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justanotherclassic View Post
    I always found it insanely depressing that Age of Ultron was the last MCU movie where the characters honestly all felt like friends. From Civil War on, it became an angst-fest and I wasn't convinced these people even liked each other by the end. Even Steve's arc, where so much of it was built around deep and intense friendships, ended with him essentially devaluing those relationships in favor of a "what might have been" romance. He honestly spent most of Endgame mourning Peggy -- who died of natural causes 7 years earlier than his friends who were straight eradicated...and it felt unnatural and a bit like emotional whiplash.

    The relations people have are so important. It's why I care about the teams -- the relationships they build with one another -- as opposed to the horrible in fighting. And in relation to 616!Steve, those friendships are so important to him feeling human in modern world and help him bridge his present to the past. The Avengers were incredibly important for that transition, just as the familiar face of OG Nick Fury was, as well. At any rate, what makes a good story isn't just the hero, it's their supporting cast and the people they revolve around and those fun moments.

    And tying back to Invaders, I wouldn't actually mind Zdarsky getting a chance at a main Cap title in the future.
    Writers excel when focused on character. Brubaker pulled it off with this issue 49 that explored Sharon’s inner struggles recovering from her mind control vis a vis Faustus and Skull.
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    Coates has a similar style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    I LOVE the cover for Captain America #20. L-O-V-E it. So Bond...

    Ha! That is really easy on the eyes! Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    I LOVE the cover for Captain America #20. L-O-V-E it. So Bond...

    This is SUCH a fun cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    I LOVE the cover for Captain America #20. L-O-V-E it. So Bond...

    Real groovy cover .

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    Okay, the solicitation is both intriguing but also says nothing at all:

    CAPTAIN AMERICA #20
    TA-NEHISI COATES (W) • JASON MASTERS (A) • Cover by ALEX ROSS
    SPIDER-WOMAN VARIANT COVER BY BEN CALDWELL
    ALL DIE YOUNG! The ramp-up to CAP #25 begins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justanotherclassic View Post
    Okay, the solicitation is both intriguing but also says nothing at all:
    Even the title of the arc is Bond-y. "All Die Young". Coates, man, you're alright. The reference to death and youth probably means Selene is coming back to the book. Finally. Though with the state of the X-Men being what it is, I wonder how they're going to rectify that... never mind *headdesk* I keep forgetting that this book is in the past, probably before Krakoa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    Even the title of the arc is Bond-y. "All Die Young". Coates, man, you're alright. The reference to death and youth probably means Selene is coming back to the book. Finally. Though with the state of the X-Men being what it is, I wonder how they're going to rectify that... never mind *headdesk* I keep forgetting that this book is in the past, probably before Krakoa.
    I love that, with the March solicits, it looks like we're finally getting resolution to a lot of long-time arcs. Looks like the current Cap book is going to end at #25, so we get to tie-up Selene, the Power Elite and Hydra!Cap. And in the Avengers solicit for March, it looks like we're FINALLY (it's only been ten thousand years) getting back to the Squadron Supreme/Winter Guard/Defenders of the Deep vs. Avengers stand-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justanotherclassic View Post
    I miss OG Nick Fury so much. He had such a great dynamic with Steve, Sharon, and Bucky. In many ways, I feel like the CA comics lost a lot when he was written off for Synergy. Nick Fury Jr is just a sad shadow of both OG Fury and Ultimate!Fury.
    Totally agree. OG Nick Fury & Dum-Dum were a great supporting cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    Absolutely agree with both of you, I would love to see Zdarsky on a Cap run. He not only wrote a great Steve in Invaders, but I loved his Steve in Spider-Man Life Story as well. He has the character pretty much nailed.
    Very much agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by capandkirby View Post
    I love that, with the March solicits, it looks like we're finally getting resolution to a lot of long-time arcs. Looks like the current Cap book is going to end at #25, so we get to tie-up Selene, the Power Elite and Hydra!Cap. And in the Avengers solicit for March, it looks like we're FINALLY (it's only been ten thousand years) getting back to the Squadron Supreme/Winter Guard/Defenders of the Deep vs. Avengers stand-off.
    Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing that resolution, too. The possible superpowered world war in Avengers will be an incredible spectacle, I'm sure, but I'm also looking forward to the Cap book on account of its allegory of the ongoing battle for the soul of America. Definitely food for thought.
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