Marvel has forgotten Creed has super strength. lol
I look at the current stats. Creed's strength is least as a 3 Peak Human.
Meanwhile, Wolverine & Deadpool have class 4 Superhuman Strength.
His intelligence is also a 2, which is average given how many characters have it. But I would think it would at least be a 3.
I mentioned that some pages ago. And I agree. Imo, NONE of Sabretooth's tv appearances have been good. I guess that tells you how seriously he's taken all around. Almost nobody who works on comic-related media seems to take Sabretooth as a serious villain. He's always more of an annoyance.One note villain is easier to write I guess, but yeah using Tieri's version would have been perfect. Also doesn't help that Sabretooth characterization in the movies or tv shows were far from perfect.
Yeah. Darn I wish I had paid attention. I remember someone had asked about it on reddit. Saying that Mystique shot him just one issue ago, but he was back taking orders from her like nothing happened. And to them, that didn't seem like something Creed would do.Maybe that was during that Sabretooth/Mystique mini during the 90s or when he was with X-Factor? I'm not sure.
Then again, Deadpool's memory is treated as wacky due to all the times he's been shot in the head / killed. I suppose Creed forgot Mystique shot him. lol
Just have to make your own theories around writers' screw-ups. Like Gillien's Sabretooth. With the bad retcons, inaccurate history, and blatant contradictions. I tend to pronounce everything he wrote in Origins as non-canon.
1. Never has Creed been hinted to have siblings.
2. In the 90's, his 1st kill was his pediatrician. Not his brother over a pie.
3. Silver Fox was a memory implant. Yet we get that story again.
4. Creed loved his mother & only killed his father. Not both parents like Gillien wrote.
5. And he can't even keep his retcons straight. In Origins, Creed had a brother, Luther. Then in Origins II, he had Saul & Clara. Where were they during the first Origins? Lol and why does Clara scold Creed for killing their parents, but snot the other brother they had?
Lets not even get into the fact he made Sabretooth's Origin story all about WOLVERINE. That's another reason Creed is seen as a joke these days. Writers don't know what to do with him, if he's not Wolverine's accessory.
THE JOKER is getting his own film this year, and Batman doesn't seem to be a part of it. Says something about his popularity. Even the Joker is seen as his own character who can carry a story without Batman glued to him.
Where's Sabretooth's movie? Heck, we can't even get a good movie depiction for small roles. lol
That says it all there. Sabretooth isn't very popular, nor a high-level villain. And it shows given how little devotion he gets.
Yep. May as well leave Creed out of it, and hook Mystique up with Wolverine and have them beat on Sabretooth as a couple. As the 2 movie starlets.Mystique got a big boost thanks to the movies but yeah it really did Creed no favor that's for sure.
I will surely add it. This has almost become fun really. lolDamn poor Vic, that's tough lol. Maybe you can add this gem from Wolverine First Class 9:
Even as a Wolverine's fan that was so dumb and painful to look at.
Yep. That came up some pages back too. Those 3 have no business being partners again after Creed played them both for fools. Omega Red got his revenge when he sent Agent Zero after him, which almost got him killed. But yeah, their "friendship" really made no sense. Especially Omega Red saying it's Creed who only ever treated him like a person & made him see he could be more than a monster. HA!!!! That bromance is a tad too late with two big a bridge burned. lolTrue about Omega Red but honestly after what Creed did to both him and Lady Deathstrike during the Logan Files story, no way they would have agree to work with him again lol.
Long as the motive isn't Mystique or Wolverine. lol Honestly, I have gotten bored with Creed's relationship to both of them. Writers have just made them as bland & one-note as possible, and it's hard to really care. Neither relationship has substance, imo. Mystique was at her best with Destiny. And Creed was better with....well everyone who isn't her. lolNo problem lol, I will give it a try, because I missed a well written Sabretooth. Rosenberg is hit and miss so who knows maybe it's going to be fun, at least I hope so. If he has ulterior motives beyond helping Malekith that could be interesting.
Honestly, long as Rosenberg is writing, I don't want him to touch Monet.A shame, they should have let them stay in the main universe I could have seen them joined Cyclops and Wolverine team.
Now this is only hearsay. But I was told by a fan who asked about Monet on Rosenberg's twitter. Rosenberg apparently said he doesn't like Monet much. If that is true, in combination with his sketchy depiction of Sabretooth, I'd rather he didn't touch either of them. lol But maybe i'll be wrong & he'll do a good villain Creed. If he does, then I gladly retract my complaints & admit I underestimated him.
Interesting trivia. I love stuff like that. And I don't blame Davis for being annoyed. And honestly, Sabretooth giving speeches to Logan was played out before that. Again, he's played better mind-games by Tierri & the 90's.Yeah that was Killable during the Cornell's run, I get that Creed wanted to break Logan but honestly the way it was done during the Tieri's run was much more impactful and true Sabretooth big plan was so dumb and the final fight with Wolverine was just bad. Want to know something funny? That issue with Creed defeating the powerless Wolverine was supposed to be a big fight and that was the reason Alan Davis (the artist at the time) stayed on the series and in the end it was just Sabretooth trying to talk Wolverine to death which really annoyed Davis.
Another issue with the X-Office rehashing stories over & over, and not giving them anywhere near the passion & bite they had the first time around.
I can't even say it's the inversion since Brisson, Duggan, and Bunn didn't give Sabretooth airhead millennial treatment. Similar to what Simone has done to Domino. Like some writers wanna age down the characters to try & prove they're "hip" and appeal to "kids."That cheeseburger quote and him sending emojis for Logan's birthday were dumb, it's like the inversion also affected Sabretooth's brain in the worst way possible lol. I agree that ass kicking by Cho was annoying.
Sadly. You even have some complaining about Remender's Daken & how he shouldn't be manipulated by Creed "of all people." Creed was the original Daken done right. Creed was playing mind-games before Daken even showed up. The same Creed who broke Xavier & outsmarted Sinister. But no surprise he gets no credit for the mind-screws he delivered in the 90's due to how stupid he's depicted now.Yeah it never make any sense, honestly none of the "Wolverines" should stand a chance again him, between his superstrength, his healing factor, his experience, his adamantium skeleton and fingernails, he could cut all of them in half if he wanted, not just ripping off half of their faces lol. No surprise about Deathstrike or Creed characterization after he became leader, the X-Office under Paniccia was a mess unfortunately.
And I think the only reason Pak started writing him better is because he had Logan & Warpath taken from him. So he had to somewhat clean up Creed's characterization & bring him to the front now that he lost his other male characters. Logan & Warpath stayed taking the piss out of Creed and/ or showing him up.
It's possible, but I am still wary because even Claremont didn't always give Creed the beast of feats. Like his Exiles run where Psylocke hands Creed his ass on a platter & Creed got absolutely no shots in.Pak is currently doing a great job on Hulkverines, so who knows maybe he learned from his mistakes. I'm curious if Creed will appear during the Wolverine Exit Wound one shot, with both Claremont and Hama as writers that could be a good thing for Sabretooth!
He says he wanted Sabretooth to be Wolverine's superior, but he never really got around to expanding on that. And now it's too late, because how would he justify all the times Wolverine has kicked Creed's ass recently. lol Without some Clone retcons.
And the cover has also soured me on it.
Sure Creed got to scratch Wolverine's lip. I guess it's better than nothing, but Wolverine is the one with his claws through Creed's face again.
So, again, I avoid until told otherwise. lol