Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
But really who cares what they think, I'm an individual with individual tastes, If I don't enjoy a writer I'm not gonna change my mind just because some editor at marvel deluded himself into thinking he is the greatest thing since the invention of sliced bread.
Being a "professional" doesnt meant you cant be wrong, ultimately is not even about being right or wrong, it's about finding the comics entertaining or not......it wouldnt be the first time marvel has put out subpar work and it wont be the last
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Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
I wasn’t responding to your point, so I am not sure how you think I am trying to stop you expressing anything. However, as I often point out this is an appreciation thread.
Calling one of the most popular and critically acclimated works of this era subpar is clearly an appeal to some nonspecific sense of quality that is not shared by many people. This is the part of your argument that inevitably provokes argument.
The logic seems to be ‘I don’t like this’, ‘others express a distaste’, ‘they are also fans of this property’, therefore ‘fans of this property don’t like this’.
The only real conclusion you can reach is ‘others share my perspective’, not a specific category of others, just ‘others like myself’.
You can only say in your opinion the work is subpar based upon your own personal scale. But the problem there is the word par implies a more objective measurement. The winner of the Masters this weekend won’t be the person that plays most highly above their own personal measure of success, they will be the person that gets the lowest score.
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Clearly. And so that’s how we should express it. Either our taste or distaste. Making claims that a writer is good or bad, when they are a professional writer employed for their writing skill, should be expressed personally not generally. There is no appeal to authority here, apart from the editorial team. Railing against that is not going to get anyone anywhere.
I've made no secret of my huge dislike of how Aaron's handles Thor and his mythos
Just as I have also said he is handling it very skillfully in parts, just not how I like
And clearly some like it, or its sales would be poorer
Of course the numbers don't account for those who buy a comic out of fan loyalty even if they don't like it, but we can never know the proportion of that
But that was really my point, we can only ever really know ourselves in this
I for one am looking forward to him moving on to another book, others of course will not be
I am pretty sure that figure is quite small in the broader scheme of things, because of the way both Marvel and DC run their businesses. You can see it in their choices. But always remember those long term collectors that are loyal may also approve of the product, (I am proof of that) and that older fans like myself and others here, are actually a minority even in the direct market. Many of those loyal collectors started doing so relatively recently. We can only define loyalty as a customer with a habit or a pull list, we can’t work out their preferences aside from what they buy.
Buying something one doesn’t approve of is not a very good idea. I was a loyal Star Wars fan. But I stopped going to see the movies when I no longer enjoyed them because I am not a masochist.
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